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Garland Stands By School Memo, White Male Wins $10 Million, Baldwin Investigation Press Conference​

October 28, 2021 Robert Gruler Esq.
Watching the Watchers with Robert Gruler Esq.
Garland Stands By School Memo, White Male Wins $10 Million, Baldwin Investigation Press Conference​
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Attorney General Merrick Garland is scolded by Senate Republicans in a Judiciary Hearing over Garland’s school memo authorizing FBI intervention in local school matters. A white-male former healthcare executive wins a $10 million dollar verdict in a reverse-discrimination case after he was fired and replaced by two women. Officials in New Mexico hold a press conference to provide updates in the Alec Baldwin shooting case and confirm that no one has been ruled out regarding criminal charges. ​

And more! Including:​

🔵 Review of the National School Boards Association’s letter to the White House on September 29, 2021.​
🔵 Merrick Garland’s Memorandum from October 4, 2021, authorizing FBI intervention in schools.​
🔵 NSBA sends a letter on October 22nd, 2021, apologizing for their first letter. ​
🔵 House Republicans demand Garland retracts the “parents are terrorists” memo.​
🔵 Senate Republicans blast Attorney General Merrick Garland during a judiciary committee hearing.​
🔵 Senator Tom Cornyn from Texas asks about the Garland Memo and the chilling effect it causes.​
🔵 Ben Sasse from Nebraska says the NSBA letter was co-written by the White House.​
🔵 Senator Tom Cotton (R-AK) blasts Garland and says he is happy he is not on the Supreme Court.​
🔵 Senator Whitehouse asks Garland about January 6th, of course.​
🔵 David Duvall wins $10 million dollars in the lawsuit against Novant Health.​
🔵 Duvall sued Novant over claims of reverse discrimination after he was fired and replaced by two women.​
🔵 Kate Everett and Vicky Free were promoted over Duvall in 2018 during a company diversity effort.​
🔵 Review of the jury verdict in the case of Duvall vs. Novant Health in North Carolina.​
🔵 Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza holds a news conference providing updates on the Alec Baldwin shooting.​
🔵 New Mexico Prosecutor Carmack-Altwies said criminal charges have not been ruled out in the case.​
🔵 Bullets have been recovered from the body and shoulder of the victims. ​
🔵 Sherriff Mendoza confirms a lead projectile was retrieved, but more testing is being completed.​
🔵 District Attorney Carmack-Altwies says “no one is ruled out at this time.”​
🔵 Mendoza confirms that Alec Baldwin is an active part of this investigation.​
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Hello, my friends. And welcome back to yet. Another episode of watching the Watchers live. My name is Robert Mueller . I am a criminal defense attorney here at the RNR law group in the always beautiful and sunny Scottsdale Arizona, where my team and I over the course of many years have represented thousands of good people facing criminal charges. And throughout our time in practice, we have seen a lot of problems with our justice system. I'm talking about misconduct involving the police. We have prosecutors behaving poorly. We've got judges, not particularly interested in a little thing called a justice. And it all starts with the politicians, the people at the top, the ones who write the rules and pass the laws that they expect you and me to follow, but sometimes have a little bit of difficulty doing so themselves. That's why we started this show called watching the Watchers so that together with your help, we can shine that big, beautiful spotlight of accountability and transparency down upon our system with a hope of finding justice. And we're grateful that you are here in with us today because we've got a lot of news to get into. In this episode of watching the Watchers. We're talking about attorney general Merrick Garland got called back in front of the Senate judiciary committee today and was asked about this school memorandum that he proffered from the department of justice. That was basically allowing the FBI to insert itself into some of the local school conversations. We're seeing this around all America currently. And so there's a big conversation taking place about what's going on in our schools, the NSPA the national school board association. They sent a letter over to the white house, over to the DOJ and then a new policy came out and then they kind of retracted that letter. And so there's a big back and forth going on here. But Merrick Garland is standing by the memo , standing by the letter, got scolded at length today in Congress. And so we're going to review all of that testimony. A lot of slam dunking. Some of it is, you know , worthwhile other is just political bloviation, but we'll go through it all. And then in our second segment, very interesting case, we're talking about a guy by the name of David Duvall, a white guy who is somebody who is $10 million, richer won a big lawsuit and a reverse discrimination case sued a healthcare company called Novant health over the claim that he was fired unnecessarily. And they replaced him with two women, somebody named Kate Everett and somebody named Vickie free. They were promoted over him in this 2018 diversity hire movement. And , uh, he took it to court and a jury came back and said what they did, there was absolutely reverse discrimination. And so we'll take a look at that interesting lawsuit. And I want to go through the claims and you can sort of see how this all unfolded and exactly what the jury wrote on the jury verdict. It's pretty interesting. And then in our final segment, we had a big update on the Alec Baldwin shooting. Of course , this took place on the scene of rust. And today there was a press conference from both the sheriff, a Santa Fe county sheriff, a addin Mendoza, along with the New Mexico prosecutor, Mary Carmack [inaudible] . We talked about her yesterday. I learned a lot about her. They came out, they had about a 20 minute press conference, took some questions, but we learn a little bit more about what happened in the Alec Baldwin case. And so we'll get to that at the end of the show today, our final segment, if you want to be a part of the program, of course we are recording live now [email protected] . There's a form here that you can use if you're over there, where you are able to ask a question and we'll go ahead and do our very best to get through them. Somebody says that I switched channels on rumble rubbed . I switched channels. What happened? Did I screw that up? I might've picked the wrong channel. Oh , I don't know what somebody says here . Somebody is asking for the rumbles link . So before we jump into the segment, let me just copy and paste that puppy over there. And uh, and then we can jump into it. Okay. So you can certainly ask questions by going to this form [email protected] . If you are looking for clips of the show, they're available over on YouTube at Robert ruler , Esq clips, we've got the clips channel that is , uh, where we have all of the clips that you can send to your friends and family. Very, very useful stuff. Okay. So let's get into the news of the day. Attorney general Merrick Garland, somebody who is the, essentially the chief law enforcement officer of the United States. The head attorney for the entire country was called back in front of Congress. Today. You may recall that previously he was called in front of the house. The house of representatives asked him a number of questions. And we covered a lot of that here and now today he was in front of the Senate because the senators also wanted to get their pound of flesh out of him. But what is this all about? What is everybody so upset about? We've been seeing a lot of conversations taking place about this schools. We've talked a lot about this idea that maybe the FBI and the department of justice were labeling parents as domestic terrorists and people who were worthy of being investigated by the FBI. Where did this all come from? Where did this story originate? Well, let's start at the very top. It starts back on September 29th with the national school board association. They sent a letter to the white house, and this is what it looked like. And there's a back and forth that's taking place here and we're going to go through this because they ended up actually retracting this letter. It's six pages long. They're not going to read the whole thing. I just want to give you a high level overview. So you can see how this all originated in the first place. What we can see here on September 29th, 2029, they send a letter over to Joe Biden. This is the national school boards association. Okay. So sort of like the biggest association of public schools in the entire nation, sort of this organization that brings them all. And so if they're going to write a letter to the president, everybody's ears are gonna perk up wondering, oh, well, maybe we should listen to what they have to say. And so they said , uh , dear Mr. President America's public schools and its education leaders are under an immediate threat. What, wow, you see that first sentence, an immediate threat public schools and education leaders. Whoa, that means everybody better spring into action. Seriously, they're saying we're , we are respectfully now asking federal law enforcement and other assistance to deal with the growing number of threats of violence and acts of intimidation occurring across the nation. Local school board members want to hear from their communities on important social issues. And we must protect us free speech. However, there must be safe guards in place to protect public schools. And the leaders we believe in immediate assistance is required to protect our students, protect our school board, protect our members. All of this, there are attacks coming out against school. Board members. There are facing , they are facing physical threats, talking about false inclusions about critical race theories and so on and so forth. You see what's happening here. So this is the NSPA we're under attack. We're under result. We're under constant threat because the parents are angry at us because they're teaching our kids and certain things. This was signed off here by Viola M Garcia. She's the president of this organization, along with chip Slaven, who's a lawyer, he's the interim director. And they say that we're committed to working with you, president by an annual administration to address this crisis. It's affecting our public schools right now. We need your prompt attention to this matter, vital that we continue this. And we urge the federal government to intervene against individuals and hate groups who are targeting our schools and our educators. Wow. Okay. So this is like a code red, right? This is like red alert. Everybody in America cares about children. Anytime there's something wrong that might impact the children. Everybody starts jumping out of their seats, right? Got to save the children, the innocent children. So if the entire national school board association who governs all of the public schools, or as you know, the association of which many of the public school entities are a part of this, right? Think of this like the American medical association or for the four attorneys, it's the American bar association kind of covers the entire country, same thing happening here. So if they come out and they urge the president, the white house of this country, and they say things like we are under immediate threat, we ask federal law enforcement and other assistance to deal with the threats of violence. It's quote right here. They want federal law enforcement to come in, please, white house. We need federal. We need the feds in our schools. Okay. Holy moly. This may have been a way bigger problem than anybody anticipated. So my goodness, thank goodness. We have Merrick Garland, our very fearless attorney general. Who's going to spring into action. Remember this letter came out from September 29th, just a couple days later. Interesting on September 29th. Okay. No cook a couple of us , October 4th. We can count those days, whatever turns out to not many of them. And you'll notice that the office of the attorney general sprung into action, less than a week later, we have a new memo. We have a new policy that just is walking out from the us attorney's office. They were able to get an entire memorandum drafted and change the whole policy based on one letter in like a week. Right? Sure. Okay. So maybe there's some collusion happening here. Maybe the white house is involved with crafting this narrative and it's just bingo. Bingo. One comes out and then the next guy comes out with the DOJ response . Oh, the school boards are freaked out. There you go. DOJ Springs into action. When have they been able to accomplish anything so fast ever? Well, anyways, here's what the memo said. This is what the senators are very upset about today. And rightfully so. So attorney general Garland, you can see he signed off on this. We covered this previously, but it's worth reviewing again, October 4th, it says in recent months there's been a disturbing spike in harassment, intimidation and threats of violence against school administrators, board members, teachers , staff, who participate in the vital work of running our school. Spirited debate is important, but that does not extend to threats of violence or efforts to intimidate individuals based on their views. Now, what we're going to hear about when we actually hear from Eric Garland is not much right. As I've said, many times on the show that these congressional hearings are basically just opportunities for media spectacles. Everybody just wants to call somebody in a dunk on them and then make believe that they're actually doing something useful and productive and both sides do it right today. We're going to watch the Republicans gunk on Garland when it's the Democrats turn. And there's a Republican in there, they're going to dunk on the Republicans and it just goes around and around and around. They all want their little two-minute clips to put on Twitter and say, I'm fighting for you. My constituents, when we all know it's just a big dog and pony show, they call mark Zuckerberg and they cut Jack Dorsey. And oh, no, we're not doing anything. They all are doing everything. We all know they're doing everything and nobody does anything about it. So , uh, it's going to be one of those things, but we are going to see Merrick, Garland squirm a little bit and try to sort of, you know, weasel his way out of answering questions. He's going to default back to this line. The only thing that I was talking about in my memo was violence was just stopping violence. No, I'm not . I don't want anything to do with intimidating , uh , you know, parents or , uh , chilling speech. We're not talking about stopping them for participating in developing the curriculum for their children. Not none of that. We're just talking about violence. And so we talk about how politicians use their weasel words and the different strategies that they'll they'll use to sort of manipulate the conversation from expanding the scope of the arguments to narrowing the scope of the argument. And so in this case, mayor, Garland's just going to narrow this puppy right down. We see very clearly that he writes about efforts to intimidate individuals. And you can also see, he talks about harassment and intimidation, right? Whatever those mean , whatever that means. It's a very subjective interpretation does going in front of your school board and saying, ah , attention, school board. I'm angry that you are not reporting on a rape of a student that took place here. I'm very angry with you. And I think you should be fired and resigned. And I'm going to scream at you about it. Is that harassment. I mean, it might feel harassing. Does that justify the U S department of justice stepping in, in a situation like that? I don't think so. Merrick Garland does though. He says threats against public servants are not only illegal. They also run counter to our nation's core values. It's so tired of that crap. W w okay. They say that in every sentence, it feels like those who dedicate their time and energy to ensuring our soul children are safe, are great. The department takes seriously these incidents, and we're going to use our authority to discourage these threats, identify them when they occur and prosecute them when appropriate. Okay . The NSBE asked for intervention, boom. On October 4th, they got it. They're going to announce a series of measures designed to address arising criminal conduct directed toward school personnel. It might include harassment or intimidation. I don't know. It might be intimidating to one of these school board members. If somebody says I'm going to run against you and make sure that you never went again, that kind of sounds scary. Maybe that concerns them. So he finishes this. He says coordination and partnership. Now with local law enforcement is critical. The federal government communicating with local law enforcement to get in to 14,000 public schools. He says to this end, I'm directing literally the FBI working with each us state's attorney to convene with everybody all over the place within 30 days of this memo, right? So November 4th is going to be 30 days. So we're going to get some answers on this real soon. He's directed every single United States attorney to go in, in conjunction with the FBI and start looking into these schools and the parents who maybe he's calling harassers and intimidators and potentially violent insurrectionists who knows these meetings. He says, we'll facilitate strategies for addressing the threats against school, administrators, board, teachers, members, all of that stuff. We're steadfast in our commitment to protecting people all across the United States and other forms of against other forms of intimidation and harassment. Okay. So this goes out now and parents who were just saying, oh , all we wanted to do was go talk about Johnny. And Susie's , uh, you know , book report on critical race theory. Now we've got a threat from the U S DOJ indicating that the FBI is going to be investigating all of these different school board meetings that might lead to criminal prosecution further down the line. Wow, that's interesting. So the country has just made a pretty big a shift in terms of, you know , parenting and raising your kids and education and all of that. Interesting. Now of course, after this memo came out, people like me and probably people like you were screaming from the rooftops. This is insane. We're the FBI. What are you talking about? The FBI now is getting involved in local school issues with rowdy parents and school boards. Okay. So , uh, we we've talked about it, right? How every everywhere you turn the federal government is encroaching everywhere on state sovereignty. And this is just yet another example of it. So parents are outraged screaming from the rooftops and many states are now sort of petitioning that they're pulling their public school systems back out of the NSBE BA that big overarching entity that sort of manages all these things. Everybody is starting bailing out, sending them letters. And so October 4th, Merrick Garland changes the policy, no , October 22nd, a couple of weeks later. And SBA says, sorry about that first letter. You know, that one we sent back in September shouldn't have done that. Here's what they said. They said , uh , a much shorter letter. And you'll notice nobody's signed to this one. First one had a signature look at these two knuckleheads. We had Viola Garcia over here, over here. Uh, no, nobody signed it. And SBA members from NSPA board of directors, they say, as you all know , uh , there's been extensive media coverage and other attention recently around our letter to president Biden about the threats and the acts of violence against school board members wanted to write you directly on behalf of the NSPA we regret and apologize for the letter underlined right. Underlined right there for a sentence. They mean it. Okay. We regret and apologize for the letter. Yeah . To be clear safety at school and everybody's important. However, there was no justification for some of the language included in the letter. We should have had a better process in place to allow for the consultation on a communication of this significance. We apologize also for the strain and the stress, the situation has caused you and your organizations. As we've reiterated, since this letter was sent, we deeply value the work of everybody involved. Also the voices of parents, they must be heard when it comes to decisions about their children's education, health, and safety, going to do better, moving forward, have a formal review process, all that stuff. We're going to have a , we're going to take a look at this before we send it. Next time is basically what they're saying. Nobody signed off on it. And so they just fired that puppy off. We regret and apologize for the letter. In fact, we concur with parents that they should have a lot to say about decisions when it comes to their children's education. Sorry about that. We read that one wrong a little bit, so, okay, good for them for, you know, hearing about it. And you can see that the people who wrote the first letter definitely didn't have anything to do with the second letter, their names aren't anywhere to be found on it. So Republicans , uh, rightfully so outraged about this and they're making a big issue about it in particular, because we've got a very important election coming up in Virginia, I think in six days. And this is an issue that the Republicans can absolutely win on, right? It's a cultural issue. It's a popular issue. I think that the Democrats on the wrong side of this one, but we'll see where it goes, but that being said, Republicans now are seizing on it. The house Republicans fired off a letter now after this apology letter. So on October 22nd, the NSPA says we regret and apologize. Shouldn't have said that you're not terrorists. So Republicans and say, okay, well, listen up now. We're really upset. They say you Merrick, Garland, excuse me, Mr. Attorney general, you were here last week about your memo, your terrorist memo. You said that you issued the unusual directive soon after reading about the thinly source letter by the NSPA about your specific requests for law enforcement says you appear to be surprised that the department's press released publicizing your memorandum noted the involvement of the national security division, the departmental component, responsible for prosecuting terrorism cases, despite testifying, the concerned parents expressing themselves his first amendment activity. You admitted to being completely unaware of a widely reported high profile case in Loudon county, Virginia cited in the letter during your testimony, you sidestep the obvious effect of your ill-conceived memo. Talking about first amendment rights. Parents have an undisputed right of direct to direct the upbringing of their children. Local law enforcement, not the FBI are appropriate. Authorities. What they're asking for here is saying since on October 22nd, the NSPA express regret and formally apologized for this. And because the NSB a letter was the basis for your memo. In the first place we ask now that you fully and unequivocally withdraw your memorandum immediately. Jim Jordan signed it, Louie Gohmert. We had Ken buck, we got Mike Johnson, Andy bass , Matt gates, Daryl Eissa and Steve Ciobo, all members of Congress all saying revoke it. The NSPA wrote you to the white house said, parents are dangerous terrorists, and we're scared to death. Can you do something about it? Merrick Garland, a week later, you got it. Whatever you need. Parents are terrorists. Seek the FBI on him . There you go. Parents are outraged and SBA revokes the first letter that prompted the DOJ memo. So if there's no basis for the memo anymore, going to revoke that, or are you still going to be unleashing the FBI being directed to, you know, to interface with 13,000 public schools through the U S attorney's office? Yes or no. Cause the memo is still in place, even though the NSPA doesn't want your help anymore, they regret it . They use the wrong language and they confirmed that parents have a role in their children's education. What are you going to do about this? So the Republicans very unhappy with Merrick Garland and they just blasted him today in front of the Senate judiciary committee. He got several clips here and again, you know, look, these are , uh , they're they're, they're just, it's like a political bloodsport at this point in time, here's Cornyn , he's from Texas. He's asking about the chilling effect of the memo, which I think is a very valid question. Anytime that you start to say, we're going to criminalize certain conduct, it causes a chilling effect. I'm a defense lawyer. I see how this works all the time. So you have to understand this, that the DOJ, which is a massive organization with entities everywhere, which has a budget that is insane, that that has the entire arm of the federal government under its control through the FBI and all of these different agencies that are investigatory in nature. It's a scary thing for many people. Here's Cornyn from Texas going after Merrick Garland asking about this, have you given any thought to the chilling effect of this memo? Did you think about that before you drafted it? Here he is.

Speaker 2:

Can you imagine the sort of intimidation, the sort of , uh , bullying impact that a memorandum from the department of justice would have and how that would chill the willingness of parents to exercise their rights under threat of federal prosecution? Did you consider the chilling impact your memorandum would have on parents exercising their constitutional rights?

Speaker 3:

The only thing this memorandum is about is violence and threats of violence. And it opens with a statement.

Speaker 2:

My question is, did you consider the chilling effect? This would have on parents constitutional rights to

Speaker 3:

Say that the justice department is against violence and threats of,

Speaker 2:

Did you consider the chilling effect your memorandum might have on parents exercising their constitutional rights? I think you can answer that. Yes or no.

Speaker 3:

I considered what I wanted the memorandum to assure people that we , uh , uh , recognize the rights of spirited debate

Speaker 2:

And Mr. Attorney general, you're a very intelligent and accomplished lawyer. And judge, you can answer the question. Did you consider the chilling effect that this sort of threat of federal prosecution would have on parents exercise of their constitutional rights to be involved in their children's education?

Speaker 3:

I believe it's reasonable to read this memorandum is chilling anyone's rights. It's about threats of violence and it expressly recognized this constitutional right to come make arguments about your children's education.

Speaker 4:

Senators are going back and forth for votes during this time. But I have to try

Speaker 2:

Let the record reflect the attorney general refused to answer the question.

Speaker 4:

The record reflect that they started from Texas was loud to go over as lot of time , Sandra.

Speaker 1:

All right. So they , they swap over after that. And , uh, the reason why I wanted to play that, right, very simple question. Did you consider the chilling effect that this memo might have on parents being able to speak? And he doesn't talk about that at all. Right? It does not answer that. Now he did say specifically that it only goes to threats of violence and to violence, but that's not what his memo says. Okay. We just talked about that as we underline here, talks about harassment and intimidation, talking about all of those other things that are related to violence and threats of violence, but all of this is being done to identify and use federal government resources when they expect it . Basically he says it right here, violence and or efforts to intimidate individuals based on their views, intimidate. Okay. Intimidate. And a lot of things can be intimidating, right? That, that don't necessarily conflate with violence. So he's, he's being very squirrely there. He, he wrote a memo that talks about other permutations of it. It's not only violence, right? It's also sort of, you know, people who are getting angry at, at these school board meetings. And so doesn't answer it is it gives, is given the opportunity three or four times doesn't answer. It says, I think it's all about violence. It's not what was said. It's very yes or no. He's a constitutional lawyer. He was going to be on the Supreme court. So he's , it's like, yes, you said that you encourage free speech and open dialogue and parents being involved in their conversation about their children's educations, but your policy chills it nonetheless. So just because you said something doesn't mean it negates the policy. It's like, when you say, Hey, excuse me, with all due respect, you're a moron and an idiot. And the person gets mad at you and you say, well, you can't get mad at me. Well, why not? You call me a moron and an idiot. Yes. But I said with all due respect, so I met respectfully, you don't get to talk like that. Right. You can't just say, and , and proffer one version of reality that doesn't match the policy that you put in the same memorandum. Okay. So that was an actual question. He had an actual opportunity to answer that. And now we're going to go check out some of the, the red meat, right? Mostly political spectacle, mostly for these politicians to sort of, you know, bloviate and go make a couple of points, but doesn't make it wrong. Does it? Right? Doesn't make their tirades inaccurate. And so we can enjoy some of this together here is Ben sass and he is diving in on the idea that potentially the DOJ or the white house more accurately was actually colluding with the NSBE, the national school board association in the creation of the first letter. Right? So the first letter that we talked about in September was potentially concocted jointly by the white house. And if that was the case, that might explain why AIG Garland had the October 4th memo drafted up and ready to go like within a week or what ? However many days that was right, September 29th to the 14th , whatever very quickly white house gets a letter. By the time it lands on Merritt Garland's desk, he's got a memo ready to go, oh, we're going to change the entire justice department, right? This is not a small court on the corner with three staff people. This is the entire us justice department talking about 13,000 schools. It's a big deal. So you would imagine that if an NSB letter came in from the white house, the DOJ would meet with the, with the white house would meet with several other advisors , maybe the department of education, talk to , uh , Miguel Cardona. See what his thoughts are on this thing. Nope . Just had a memo out just going to start unleashing the FBI on the whole country. Great. So Ben Sasse is digging in on this and well, you guys wrote it together. How does that work here? He is. Um,

Speaker 3:

We , uh , we got, we received a letter from the national association of school board .

Speaker 5:

No reason to believe that you didn't receive an anonymous letter, white house, political staff, co-wrote it with this organization, which is why the organization has rejected it. You know, these facts now to be true. And yet you still won't disavow your memo. Why you didn't receive some objective neutral letter because all these people were being threatened. You are the risk . You are responding to a political campaign to politicize the department of justice. How big is the threat that American parents pose right now? When you lead a big organization, you have a hundred thousand plus employees. You have a lot of violence to go after our parents at school boards. One of the top three concerns you face right now.

Speaker 1:

All right. So I don't get the answer on that one, but you can see it was a lot of that, right? It's a lot of just Republicans , uh , just , uh , chiding him. And you probably have seen many of the different clips and you may have seen, you know, Corey Booker doing the same thing, even the Democrats, or like screaming at Merrick Garland today, it was a weird thing. You know, like when you're walking down, have you ever been to the, to the , uh, you know, an animal rescue center, for example, and you walk in and it's mostly quiet, but then one dog starts barking and then guess what? The one right next to it starts barking. And before you know it, the whole facility is just barking. All the dogs are barking, right? That's what it was today in Congress, you have one Congressman comes out of [inaudible] Carlin and then the other side does the same. They're the same thing going back the other way. And so even the Democrats today, we're , uh , Cory Booker, Cory Booker was screaming at him. I didn't clip. It was screaming at Merrick Garland, like, well, isn't it true that you love children and that you love parents having their education , uh, you know, being fostered with children. Uh , all right, but this one was a spicy one. So we're going to take this one. This was Tom cotton. Tom cotton is from Arkansas and woo boy, this was a spicy one. You know, sometimes you hear those, those , uh, those mic drop moments that, that, that really just like hurt that act . You can actually feel it because the verbal assault was just so aggressive. That's what happened here with Tom cotton. Let's listen to this one.

Speaker 5:

You've cited as the basis for that directive, the national school board associations letter of September 29th, was that directive being prepared before September 29th, before the school board association letter was issued.

Speaker 3:

I don't believe so. Certainly I didn't

Speaker 5:

Have any idea. So it was only prepared at , okay. I think that answers the question already answered . So you keep starting the school board letter and news reports news, right? One of the news reports side in that letter, which you presumably mean is from Loudon county, Virginia.

Speaker 3:

That is not what I was talking about. Well,

Speaker 5:

You keep starting news reports and that's the most prominent news report that anyone in America saying that refers to Scott Smith who's 15 year old daughter was raped. She was raped in a bathroom by a boy wearing girl's clothes. Never heard of Loudon county school board covered it up because it would have interfered with their transgender policy during pride month. And that man Scott Smith, because he went to a school board and tried to defend his daughter's rights was condemned internationally. Do you apologize to Scott Smith and his 15 year old daughter, judge,

Speaker 3:

Senator anyone whose child was raped as a , is the most horrific crime I can imagine. And it's certainly, and title and protected by the first amendment to protest to their schools ,

Speaker 5:

The board about it . But he was cited by the school board association. It's fine. Domestic terrorists , which we now know that letter. And those reports were the basis for your deck . Oh , this is, this is just a shameful. This here, this testimony, your directive, your performance is shameful. That's not, thank God. You are not on the Supreme court. You should resign in disgrace. Judge.

Speaker 1:

Whoa. Oh, whoa, Tom cotton. Whoa, that wa oh man. Oh, I got, I think I got something stuck in my back. Oh, oh wow . That's man. That is rough. That's Ooh, look at that face. Look at that mean mug right there. He is not happy with him. You should not be on the Supreme court. I'm glad you're not on the Supreme court. Oh my goodness. That is like the most painful dig. That's like every lawyer's dream is to be on the Supreme court, not mine, but , uh, you know, every other lawyer's dream is to be on the Supreme court, especially if you're going to be a government bureaucrat lawyer for 40 years, like that's like the ultimate win. And when that was so close, when that was in his grass, Merrick, Garland was just one little hair away from sitting on that Supreme court didn't happen for him. And man, Tom cotton just brings out that and slammed , rubs his nose right in it. I don't, I don't know if I can endorse that, but you know, that's Tom cotton. I mean, man really hit that one home and he should have resigned in disgrace. Okay. Well that's, that's how it went today. And so , uh, that was really probably the juiciest one. So we'll end up with that. Now, here is a little taste of what the Democrats were talking about. So , uh , the Democrats, this is Mr. White house, who is a part of a, a club in Rhode Island that only allows white people to be a part of it. So it's sort of a house for white people, very appropriate name. He got an opportunity to ask the attorney general about some questions today. What did he want to dig in on? Was it the schools? No, take a wild guess what he was asking about. And here he is

Speaker 3:

Very limited as to what I can save . I understand that criminal investigation going forward, please tell me it has not been constrained only to people in the Capitol . That investigation is being conducted by the prosecutors and us attorney's office set in by the FBI field office. We have not constrained them in any way. Great. And the old doctrine of follow the money, which is a well established principle of prosecution is it's, it's fair to the alive and well, it's fair to say that all investigative techniques of which you're familiar , uh, and some maybe that you're not familiar with because they post-date , your time are all being pursued in this matter. Thank you. Thank you, chairman. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1:

Just while you're here, Mr. Attorney general, are you really investigating the Capitol hill riot cases? Are you really going after those January six protestors ? Yeah, we really are. What kind of mechanisms are you using? Well, some of the mechanisms that you're familiar with and some that you're not because you're so old. Okay. Okay, good. I don't have any questions for you. Nothing further. All right . So you get out. So you see what this is, right? Both sides are just talking about whatever they want to talk about. So , uh, that was that. Let's see what you have to say about that Agee Garland in the house of the , or the Senate in this case , uh , let's take some questions over from watching the watchers.locals.com. And our first one I saw come in before the show started from our friend. Miss lucky says a little off topic. Sorry. We missed a show live yesterday. We had dentist checkups , which is always very appropriate. It says, listen to the show. When we got home, nice to meet your brother looks like he was enjoying himself, by the way. And she's telling me about the items that she likes on a certain food group, which we are not getting into today. All right. That was from Ms . Lucky. And I'm sure Sergeant Bob, his co his co-host over there, but this is not the food channel. Okay. We turned into the food channel yesterday on our last segment. And that will not be allowed here. Kevin, not Bobby Flay. I'm Robert ruler . All right , let's get back to business. All right. Good to see you. Ms . Lucky Oliver close off is here. Oh, says I watched the entire hearing today. Ted Cruz slam dunked on AIG Garland. It was embarrassing. He looked like a lost puppy looking for his owner so glad he was never confirmed to SCOTUS. You know, I agree with that. All of her clothes off. I think that it is a good thing that he's not on there. He's a pretty sort of meek guy. And I just don't, you know, I just don't think he's a strong jurist based on what I have seen out of him. Lisa Monaco is basically running the justice department anyways, as we have all seen. All right . And so , uh , that was from all of her clothes off love that we have John Dillard says the bottom line is anytime the left gets criticized, it's a national emergency. It's the worst thing ever. The sky is falling. They're a bunch of drama. Queens. Merrick Garland is an embarrassment. This just proves he shouldn't have been on the Supreme court. I think a lot of sentiment to that effect, thunder seven says mark Levin , read the letter out loud and called the lunatic, left out for calling parents, domestic terrorists. And now the Ohio school board is throwing the NSPA to the curb, severing all membership and affiliation. Yeah . So Ohio's out, right? And a lot of different states are sort of formalizing that conversation right now. They stand by the parents and not the Marxist stems. This is going to create a domino effect with other school boards, ditching them. Don't mess with mama and Papa bears , Garland. You won't win. The , and this action is just beginning to end your tyranny. Yeah . It's like, it seems like that would be the dumbest constituency to go after right. Parents and their children in schools. It's like a lot of other things like you can go after small business owners, what are we going to do about it? You can go after certain demographics, if you bundle them up in certain ways, right? Like, you know, white males, for example, bundle them up. Oh, they're so terrible. Which we're going to talk about in the next segment. But you know, you can, you can do it. But if you're just going after parents and kids, it's like, well, I don't know that mama and Papa bears , right? They're not going to get out of the way on that thing. So it kind of seems like a dumb tactical move for a political party. John Halperin says federal involvement. Are we facing an issue as large and potentially dangerous as desegregation? Isn't it ? The last time the feds got involved with local schools is being angry at crime. Expressing emotions is natural, but it seems like simply being emotional gets you labeled as dangerous. I don't see the off ramp here. Yeah. And that's exactly right, John, there is no sort of limiting principle on the upper end of that right. Violence. We can all, you know , basically understand that. But what is intimidation? What is harassment? What justifies the FBI showing up at your door. If you stand up at a school board meeting and you say, Hey, dumb moron school, board members, I'm really sick of whatever. I think you're all idiots and you should all be fired and I'm angry. I'm gonna work till the end of the earth to make sure that you never make it back on the board. You say that, what do you get? You get a phone call from the FBI. Now, do they show up at your door? Hey Mr. Guler, you know, you got a little bit aggressive there without language. Just wanted to have a conversation with you about that. Um, do you happen to be a gun owner? Oh, you are. Oh, okay. Great. So how about I just, you know, can I see that you mind if I come in? No, you're not allowed in. I do mine . Thank you. Remember the 1, 2, 3 rule? No, not without a warrant. Don't come in. Thank you for John Haugen. I agree with you, John Dolores says anyone else noticed that Merrick Garland has a strong resemblance to Dr. Fowchee. They all do kind of look alike. You know, who else looks alike? Jake Sullivan, Ned from the state department. He's a spokesperson over there. And John from the Pentagon, whatever his last name was, they all have very long slender, narrow faces, geo Mancy games, subscribe on YouTube, says it's all part of the plan to have the state raise your kids from cradle to grave or government involvement. I wish I could get together with local parents form our own co-op style homeschooling. But every avenue is full of people watching, removing, investigating all comments on the topic. Yeah, that's interesting. And you know, I don't obviously have kids, but I've always wondered what is sort of stopping parents from creating their local, you know , sort of local pods for some of this stuff now, obviously a lot, right? There's a lot that goes into that. But I think that if , if parents, you know, over the last, let's say next decade or so, get sick of dealing with this stuff. What does that decoupling process look like? And what does the next transitory transition look like? I just think it's interesting. I, you know, I don't have kids, but you know, who knows what goes, where that goes? Xs here says advice to all locals. If the FBI comes knocking at your door without a warrant, don't talk to them. Anyways. I wish local and state officials step their foot down and told the DOJ FBI to F off likely won't happen. Yeah. I'm probably not look what they do. They're all just, they just follow the orders everywhere. You turn. Good to see you. We have a thousand academy, says the letter makes a great template for other current events that are taking place. Just replace the nouns in the pronouns with the groups that are being ostracized today by the left and send it to Joe Biden. See what happens? Probably nothing. Yeah, probably nothing. It's the wrong group because it's not really based on principles. It's more based on identities. And we have to juggle identities based upon whatever our current policy posture looks like. Good to see you. South sun , we have geo Mancy says, it looks like they signed that memo with blue crayon kind of fitting. It is the justice department. A lot of crayons there, Perry Mason era , he says Garland needs to be impeached. Just bitter. He was denied the SCOTUS appointment. He's just another tool of the Marxist cabal everybody's in there . Just sort of being shuffled around, playing the game. They need to play. Monster. One says the school boards of Ohio and Missouri, both withdrew from the NSPA go woke, go broke. I love it. So I didn't know that Ohio, Missouri, I saw a map saying that a lot of states have started that process. But yeah, I mean, they see , they are seeing the dominoes falling. They're going, oh crap. Maybe we shouldn't call the parents of the children who go to the schools that we run terrorists. So they had to stop the bleeding. That's good. Chairman of the board says the Pennsylvania school board and the Ohio school board officially cut ties yesterday. I wonder if the backlash is why they issued their statement as chairman of the board. I approve these steps, I guess board and board are different words, but I blame my school board for my education. Do you see that? Did you see he used the wrong word there or the correct word? My school board like on board at school, not a board of people. It's very clever their chairman of the board board, not a group of people. All right . We have another one from a former. Leo says how, oh, there it is. How about the school board member who climbed down from a seat approach? The parent threatened him with bodily harm had to be restrained possibly by law enforcement, from assaulting the peaceful, still sitting parent peers of the radically violent school board members should have prevented from assaulting parents was that school board member taken into custody. And what are the results of that DOJ investigation? Good question. Former Leo don't think I saw that story, but yeah , that's a good question. It goes both ways we have Christiana is here says, so if the original request is revoked, then the memorandum is now legally based on what can it legally stand on its own? Or can these people just write memos about whatever the heck they feel like writing it? They can write, they can, they can just change memo. They can just change policies. However they want. That's one of the power , uh , powers of being in that position. You get to run your agency. However you want to. Now, historically there are norms in place like you don't unleash the federal law enforcement agencies on local schools. You know, that was kind of a thing that we, we did , uh, well in America did not have the FBI going in and getting involved in these issues for a few hundred years, seemed like it worked out, but that norm has been broken. And the justification was on the back of this fake letter that even the white house maybe helped. Right? So we know that this is what they were going to do. This is what they wanted to do. Anyways. We've already talked about this, right? The idea that federal law enforcement agents are going to be popping up in your backyard, Capitol hill police, setting up shops all over the place we're talking about. I think even looking at school boards, not through the FBI, like came out in this memo, but they were talking about filing civil rights claims and things like that. Under the department of education, using the department of treasury to go after people, there are encroaching, they are using the, any mechanism of the federal government to come in and take over control of some facet of your life. They're using OSHA soon for the even putting something into your body. So this is not anything new. They just needed something as a pretext, in order to justify the original policy. They don't care if it's, if it's not relevant anymore, because they got done what they wanted to get done. Merrick Garland is not reversing anything. Republicans know that monster one says Ted Cruz. One is the best Garland looks like a scolded child. When Ted is going at him, maybe I should have got that one. I didn't see that one. So Viking says, I think the bottom line is that we are so fortunate to not have Garland as a SCOTUS member, considering what we have seen from him less than impressive to be kind. Yeah. He's just not an impressive jurist. You know, with all due respect , we have another one from Nadar says, you gotta make sure that you clip the section where you are comparing the words on his letter, to what he kept saying over and over. So I can send it to my Senator, Tom cotton in the hopes that we'll him off enough to do more than talking in front of the camera. Although I do appreciate him saying, he's glad he's not on the Supreme court and that he should resign in disgrace. I personally think he should resign in cuffs, but that's just me. That's from Nadar. Yeah. Tom cotton was fired up and I loved it. A Mustang. Jeff says, wait, what? You don't want to be on SCOTUS. I will nominate you every day . Keep , keep up the great work. Well, you know, Mustang, Jeff, if I could live stream from the chamber, then maybe I'd consider it. That'd be a lot of , I'd be a lot of fun. We could do what we could do. Oral arguments. Uh , just like on the show, this country would be , uh, inflamed in one term. Be brave, says Tom cotton on fire. Garland felt that one. Yeah, that was , uh , that was like, man, that was really, that was , uh , that was an intense one. You know, like when you're arguing with an ex or something and you're like, oh , that was a zinger. Yeah. I maybe I shouldn't have said that. Uh , but Tom cotton, he said it, he didn't think twice about it. He said it. And uh, yeah, I had heard Merrick Garland from Harvard says memo, what memo? I didn't even know what this memo is. Extremely long. Filled , made up words, basically a bunch of nonsense. You know what I think Cory Booker Mr. Potato head broke into my house, logged into my computer and just sent it to harass me. Also that Supreme court comment hurt my feelings. Merrick Garland is going to need, you know , probably a nice warm bath, a glass of wine. And uh, you know, maybe some , maybe a , an ambient or something , uh, CP Miller says, let's go, Tom. Who's Tom. We have in the dark says is that White's fold club in our, I call it crackleberry cracker barrel or the honky can read that here. Uh , it's called the Bailey's beach club is actually what it's called. And it's a racist club that was flying under the river for a long period of time or under the, under the wind for a long period of time. And now it's public. I'm not gas as mayor Carlin supports children in drag giving lap dances to teachers. Uh , what is this? Let's take a look at this. Oh, there's an investigation underway after a Kentucky high school host host drag pageant. Oh gosh, I can't, I can't play this on this. Oh gosh. All right . So that's good. More school stuff. Maybe the FBI will look into that. Probably not. Let's see what else we've got shade says, did you see the smirks on Garland's face while the white house guy was questioning? What was that about? He was actually holding back a smiling. Look to me like an inside joke while they're on the same team and they're playing patty-cake. And so when you're on the same team, when you play Patty cake , it's kinda funny, you know, like try it, you know , this is ridiculous. We're actually doing this in public. We look like morons right now, but I guess everyone else is enjoying it. So I guess we'll just keep playing this game. So that's basically what it was a white house saying, are you going to do what I want you to do? And he says, yes, I'm doing what you want me to do. Okay, great. And next question, a couple more , uh, N Y renal MD says Ruth Ginsburg with pancreatic cancer at 10 times more energy and vigor. We dodged a bullet with Garland. I think that's accurate. I really do. I think Ruth was a different caliber of a jurist . Uh, even though I disagreed with most of her work, feisty lady says it will be interesting to see parents and community reactions to this new school event in Kentucky article on the photos with gateway Kentucky school staff, including town mayor, photograph getting lap dances. Yeah. We just, just open that article. One of the hazard high school staff members whose photograph getting a lap dance by a scantily clad male student was the principal Donald happy mobile Leni , who was also the mayor of Perry county city. Oh my goodness. Well, it's sort of, you know, this, this stuff is everywhere. Folks. Aren't we talked about the other, the other case of the judge, right? The judge who was filming the boys in his bathroom, who died by suicide shortly thereafter. That right, this is, this is everywhere. It's just, you know, covered up a lot of the time. Uh, as we saw in Loudon county, the last melon says laughing at the food censorship white house. Got it. Right. Follow the money Garland's family is connected to the CRT is corrupt. As the Bidens , all these bills are funneling money to fines and family on everyone's back. Parents were lazy and complacently. Hopefully now the kids aren't screwed up. That's from the last villain. Yeah. Follow the money. It's all about the money. Former Elio says the proper response to the question of do you own a gun is not yet. So if the FBI comes and asks you that, I think that's what monster one is saying. Not yet. Monster one says in my response about my comment about Biden, deflecting, the let's go brand and stuff. Apparently he shot a commercial or an ad that features a handicap guy named Brandon, who was thanking buy in for his build back better agenda. Clearly an attempt to evil, either label the let's go branded means hate speech or an attempt to make it seem like people are supportive of this handicapped guy. Oh, interesting. Oh, I see. I see what they're doing. So it's probably just to sort of take the edge out of it. It's like, oh, we know it's there. And so we're going to go hang out with Brandon and let's go brand it . And we're embracing this and we're being supportive of Brandon who's handicapped, which is, you know , nice. I support, I support Brandon and also let's go, Brandon, Hugh , Jess is here, says I noticed that one of this hearing, none of this hearing is found anywhere on left-wing stations or outlets. I looked everywhere and couldn't find it. Media is acting like Haydn Biden. That's from somebody we have miss Lucky's here says, I wonder if Garland is getting tips from Fowchee. Oh yeah. There are two peas in a pod aren't they? And the dog says, did you see the clip of a school board meeting, where they were forcing the parents to give out their name and exact address before they speak? And then they can only speak on what's listed on the outline. And the woman even said, parents can not criticize school. Board members are also going to be banned from all future meetings. It makes me furious. Even watch the clip. I'll find that if you haven't seen it, I have not seen that. No, I think, I think I read about that. You know, so, so I don't know about the address thing, but like when I go and speak in front of city hall, I've, I've done it twice now. Uh, one successfully one not successfully, I have to give my address. Right. Uh, my name is Robert I'm in the city of Scottsdale. This is , uh, my address is my home address, my office address. And so, you know, those are things that sometimes you just have to say, I think just as part of, you know, the, the, the formal rules, just to show that you live in that district, essentially, that's what the address is for . Oh, you live here. Great. So I know where that is. Right? Many of the board members and people in these areas know what the precincts are and they say , I know where that is. That's in my district. That's my constituency, stuff like that. Be brave, says, I want to see a replay of the guy with dreadlocks in California, who was channeling Alex Jones at the school board meeting. Refreshing. I think he was referencing reference in the Garland memo. I don't recall that one. Yeah. I don't recall that one. There's some mint, some amazing videos. People are speaking out monster. One says that anyone see the video of the school board that, yeah. So I think we, yeah, so talks about the entire name and address. One guy was uncomfortable, tried to say, stay away from the address, but they made him repeat it into the microphone so everybody could hear it. Yeah. They're getting fishy. Aren't they leafy buck says I can see why Obama tapped Garland for Skoda , superficially, moderate, but able to be led about by the nose. If confirmed, you would have been easily been pressed ganged onto the liberal wing. That's one thing we should credit to cocaine. Mitch, two out of the three Trump SCOTUS picks were far from great, but any of them preferable to Garland who would have probably been essentially Soto my yours battered spouse on the bench. That's from leafy bug. And that is some astute legal analysis there. Yeah. Sotomayor's battered spouse on the bench, you know, that's , that's a pretty good visual there. I don't think that that is , uh , far off Seoul Viking says, I wonder if America said time to look into the Loudon county boys in the skirt case while? Uh, yes. Uh , so I don't know soul , you know, that was one that he said he did not hear about member when he was at the house and we go, it's been on national TV for the last several weeks, kind of a big story. A lot of people are upset about it. And he said, well, I don't pay attention to local state cases. And I said, that's interesting because that very day, the department of justice came out with a press release and said that they just had a big settlement in a school case in Utah, that same day, a local state case. Now that involved African-American students, this involved a, I think a regular gender heterosexual, white female, as far as I can tell. So , uh, you know, two different , uh , standards there , CPM Miller says, let's go, Brandon is today. Let's go, Tom. As in Tom cotton. Ah, got it. I'm a little slow. You have to, you have to clarify some of those things for me. I appreciate it. I got it. Now form. Leo says I was working at working Leo . I told my wife at the time, if internal affairs ever showed up the door to ask some questions, slam the door in their face, call nine one, one , screaming to the phone. First out the address, there are men's with guns who wanted to get in my home and hang up. That's not bad advice. Don't talk to the police, man. It's part of the rules. Jeremy Murrieta says, Rob, I think you're onto something. I could totally picture you with the studio headphones as a commentator streaming from the courtroom. I know there have been shows like judge Judy, I would watch the Robert Mueller Esq show. Oh wait. I already do that's right. Jeremy. You do? Yeah. Could you imagine me up there? Judge Judy style with American constitutional issues. Oh, abortion. Oh. Oh. What do you say about that? Well, what do you say about that? Well, here's the verdict America live with it. Maybe one day, my friends, maybe one day , uh , excess . Did you hear about file? She's alleged puppy experiments. I did hear about it, but due to the monstrous nature of that, man, we're not going to cover that here on the show. Uh , Duncan ma , which you know? Yeah. It's , it's a terrible thing that he did Duncan McCone or uh , oh my gosh. I don't know. Make a Winker mic . I don't know what that one says. Appreciate you, Rob. I think we dodged a big one. Mitch keeping Garland off the SCOTUS. I don't know what that name was, but it seems dangerous. Monster one says breaking news. Garland just opened an investigation into Tom because he terrorized Garland's feelings. Breaking news. Garland just opened an investigation into Tom cotton because he terrorized Garland's feelings. Love that about Malik . It says, Hey Rob, hello, fellow beautiful Watchers. What's so upsetting. They've caught. They've got caught . And yet they try to justify it. Cory Booker, even compared the school shooting to the parents, expressing their frustration. He did that. I saw that no one's defending anymore. Who wants to do physical harm? Yeah, he went through and he said, yeah, I mean, we have school shootings and things like that. And therefore you are 100% justified using the FBI to investigate parents. Abraham Lincoln says my age . He never acted like this. Put this guy in a jail cell. Parents are not criminals. And our last one here, I'm not gas as school, board name and address clip. And let's see if we can play this real quickly here while we got this open. Thanks for the clip. That's a minute for the business

Speaker 6:

Meeting of the school board. It is not a meeting that belongs to the public. Each speaker is asked to state his or her name and address for the record failure to do so will result in an individual not being allowed to speak. John, can you give us your name and address?

Speaker 7:

Um, my name is John Wycliffe . I live in Mankato. Could I get your address please, John ? Um, I'd rather not since you guys don't have it already. She can't

Speaker 6:

Speak

Speaker 7:

And I get so much , uh , property damage and eggs and everything else from fun people and their friends. John happened to be on the, give your

Speaker 6:

Address. Excuse me. I live on fifth street. It's house number. Thank you. All right. So are our kids safe? Um, effective tonight? The school board will enforce the following guidelines. Open forum participants are prohibited from calling out or addressing any individual school board or school district staff member. If this occurs open forum will be closed and the individual will not be allowed to participate in future open forums, crowd noise, or any sort of grand standing during open forum, including applause talking hollering or any Oprah's will be resolved in open forum being closed further beginning at the November 1st school board meeting open forum participation will be limited to those individuals who wish to speak to an item on the board agenda. The board agenda is always made available the Thursday prior to our meetings and they are always on the district website.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, Jody Sapp . Yeah. Thank you, Jody . Well done there Jody way to keep order in. You're a little, you're a little school board over there. All right . So that was from, I'm not gas. Let's see what a, what a scene. So I guess that's, that's just how it goes. All right . Those were great questions over from watching the watchers.locals.com . We've got an amazing community over there. All chatting away. Shout outs to see we got B speck in the house, three girlies . We got resident, but Dwayne in the here we've got Lisa lemon, biz speck three girlies , Ronnie Cole signed up. Good to see you, Ronnie and many others [email protected] . Thank you for checking out our community. Okay. And we've got another segment here. What are we talking about? Look at that sun coming in. I got to figure that out. All right . We're talking about, oh yes. This guy, a white male just won a $10 million verdict. Oh my goodness. And why did he win it? Reverse discrimination. A jury out of North Carolina came out and found that this gentleman guy by the name of David Duvall was discriminated against so seriously that he was entitled to punitive damages. So we're going to go through this lawsuit. It's David Duvall against Novant health and he was claiming reverse discrimination. After two women got promoted above him, a woman named Kate Everett and a woman named Vicki free in 2018, his company had this diversity hire push, and he got booted in favor of these two other women. So he filed a lawsuit and the jury came out $10 million verdict. So we're going to take a look at this headline over from North Carolina says that a white male, a former Novant health executive, who is a white male, one 10 million buckaroos. That's a lot of money, especially for a white male, no van health is ordered to pay punitive damages, right? And so those are penalty damages. That means that somebody did something wrong and they are being punished for it. Right? You typically have what are called a nominal damages where you're just sort of like nominal, right ? They don't really do much of anything. You can have a verdict. That's a $1 verdict. Yes, you won. But the damages weren't really anything. And so we're just going to give you a dollar. It's called the nominal damage. It doesn't really equate to anything of monetary value. Then you have what are called compensatory damages. Compensatory damages are, let's say you're in a car accident and you hurt your back. And so you've got to go and get a bunch of therapy and physical treatment and all this stuff in order to repair your back, that's going to cost money to compensate you for that treatment, right? You're going to be compensated for that. You're also going to get a multiplier for your pain and suffering and all your time off of work and all of those things you're being compensated for your loss. But there's another type of damages called punitive that that's just , uh , you're a jerk. We , you did something wrong and we're going to punish you for it. And that's exactly what the jury did to this hospital. So let's go through this attorney for David Duvall, somebody named Lark large S said that his client won 10 million bucks. He's a white male. He was the senior vice president for marketing and communications over at Novak . He was there for five years and we're going to break that down because they booted him right before the anniversary. Pretty interesting. He was fired and replaced by two women, one a racial minority during a diversity and inclusion in this initiative in 2018, that included explicit goals to remake the demographics of no Vance senior leadership. Okay. So I mean like that's part of their company policy, right? So what we're going to look , you know, let's go through this and just see what the company did. A jury in the us district court out of North Carolina sided with Duvall said in court records that Duvall the white male proved that his race being Caucasian and his sex being a male was a motivating factor in no Van's decision to terminate him. And that no van did not prove that it would make the same decision regardless of his race or sex. And so we're going to break this down before we do. Let's take a look at this white male. Let's see what he looks like. Here he is. Oh my goodness. There he is. And boy, does he look white? Look at that suit and tie on there. It's baby blue hair is parted out. Definitely a white guy. David Duvall was fired by no van health in 2018 replaced by two women. Let's take a look at these women. Oh my goodness. They're actually women, probably we have on the left, Kate Everett on the right. We have Vicky free and we have two different, I think, two different ethnicities. So we have a whites woman and an African-American woman over there. So, you know, I don't know what that does to the official algorithm on diversity or inclusion. I don't know if you get points or how any of this works, but that's who we're talking about. Now. Let's take a look at the lawsuit and what happened here. You can see, we got a jury verdict yesterday, 10 26, October 26th, 2021. We have a verdict. And before we get there, we're going to look at the actual complaint . So recall that this was filed sometime ago, actually in 2019, and it's been working its way through the court system for about two years now. And we just got a verdict because this thing went to trial, there was no settlement. They weren't able to negotiate any of this stuff out. And so in 2019, this was the original lawsuit. David Duvall, as we can see suing as a plaintiff Novant health. So let's go through it briefly. You can see filed out of North Carolina, Charlotte division. Because again, you can really see what's happening here. And we want to break down what the jury saw. The jury came out in this whole thing and said, yes, this was wrong. You deserve $10 million. Maybe we can piece together. Why ? So we take a look at the complaints . We get some facts here under paragraph nine. It says plaintiff had a successful career. He was in marketing. He was in public relations. They hired him in 2013. He was the senior vice-president . He reported to somebody named Jesse. Jesse was the executive vice president and goes executive. Then senior . He worked out of Mecklenburg county. Plaintiff was hired , uh, to an agreement. He was called a tier two executive under the compensation plan. In those terms, he had specific severance benefits as a tier two executive if after at least six months, but less than five years of employment, he was terminated. He's entitled to his 12 months of severage severance. See that. So in other words, if he gets fired within a certain timeframe, he gets certain benefits. And you're going to see what this company did to try to screw them out of those benefits. Upon five years of employment , we have a different severance amount. And then there's additional severance amount under normal circumstances, about 30 days termination. Okay? So this is all about severance, but he gets some of it without prior warning. And without any explanation as to why no van terminated him 2018 ordered him off the premises immediately five days before his fifth work anniversary, huh? No explanation as to why normal circumstances did not exist for that termination been there for four and a half years, almost five years gone, pack your stuff. Get out of here. Jesse Cureton notified plaintiff of this decision. Remember Jesse was who he worked for and offered no explanation for. It said the decision had nothing to do with his performance. He done everything asked of him and more so David's just sitting there. Jesse walks into his office as sorry. Your great, got to go pack your stuff up. Get out of here today. In fact plaintiff's performance. During his five years with the defendant, very highly rated internally, externally inside the company, strong evaluations from Jesse every year conducted performance reviews did great for his team. He got a 95 out of a hundred each year, high level workplace satisfaction. Everyone on his team loved him. Numerous steering committees, strategic councils. He co-led the medical group COO a unique and extensive program for digital health consumers successfully rolled out June, 2018. Before he was fired externally marketing projects. He had industry-wide recognition awards, one of the four leaders of a national consumer consortium. In fact, he was so productive. The lawyer says here that Novant split his duties between two separate positions, probate of promoting one plaintiff, one , one of plaintiff's direct reports, a white female into a new role of chief communications officer hiring a black female as leader of marketing. Okay? So this guy, one guy did marketing and communications, but he's white. Oh, don't you hate that? So he had to go and he was so efficient and , and you know , competent that he had to be replaced by two women. One who was a direct report. One who worked under him. So she got a bump and they went and found of course a black female, because our goal here is diversity. So two female replace one guy, all right . Now, no vent fired plaintiff without warning or cause it was part of an intentional campaign to promote diversity. It's boasted about this stuff. Publicly. The following persons, all white men were separated from Novant and replaced by either a racial minority or female in a period of 12 months. And they give you a list on oh wow. Okay. So they give us a list here , uh , on information and belief like plaintiff all were terminated suddenly without warning. So they go through the list. They have the chief legal officer replaced by a black male medical group, president replaced by a black female chief information officer replaced by a white female patient experience. Officer replaced by a white female president of Haymarket medical center replaced by a black male. So did you ever see that scene in , um, game of Thrones, the red wedding when they just execute everybody spoiler alert, like , sorry about that. If you haven't seen it yet, if you haven't seen it yet, that's just your own fault. Isn't it? But it's like that. It was just Friday, the 13th. Everybody just whoop gone . While the goal of achieving diversity in leadership has recognized value. There was no justification or purpose here other than to achieve diversity or adverse employment based on race or gender plaintiff was terminated. Uh , let's see here further defendant purposely did not give the plaintiff 30 days notice expected. Y because they wanted to avoid him reaching his fifth year anniversary and becoming eligible for the severance plan. Okay. So they structured it so that they didn't have to pay him. Severance. Plaintiff was terminated just weeks after an email announcing plans to recognize him and others for their five years of service. Oh, Hey David, we're going to throw a party for you. Congratulations on being here for five years, six days before the party he's fired. So he was unemployed for nearly a year, lost severance paid out of 18 months. So he wants a bunch of money for this. He's filing several different claims. He says that the first claim for relief is a violation under title of a , what does that title? Seven of the civil rights act. He was a white male performing. Well, he was nonetheless was replaced because of his gender and race. He was forming at such performing at such a high level that they had to divide his duties between a white female and a black female. And defendant's termination was only for the purpose of improving diversity based on sex and race. In other words, it's discriminatory. They screwed him out of his severance pay. They go through the law here 29. Us code also says unlawful to discriminate against people, especially to deny them and kick them out of their compensation plan. And so there were a lot of other claims in, they're not going to go through them all, but you can see how this worked . Now, what they're asking for , uh, they got, they got full, equitable relief. They got compensatory damages. And then boy, oh boy, did they get punitive damages? You can see Luke large S got a big fat verdict on this one. Here's what the jury came back with. They said , they answered these questions. Question number one filed October 26 out of Charlotte, North Carolina saying one has plaintiff David Duvall proven that his race being white and being a male was a motivating factor in Novant health decision to terminate him answer. Yes. Number two has Novant health proven that it would have made the same decision to terminate David regardless of his race and or sex. No, he was doing great. If it was an African-American guy or a female doing the same job, he'd still be there if you , uh , and then number three, what amount of punitive damages should be awarded against Novant health, $10 million. Look at that baby right there. That is a good day for Luke large . Yes . And for David Duvall, very happy about that. Signature of the foreperson name of the foreperson. So if the North Carolina jury was not happy about what they heard that no VAT was doing now, they came out and they said, oh, we're very disappointed by this. We are extremely disappointed with the verdict. We believe is not supported by the evidence presented at trial, which includes our reason for Mr. Duvall's termination. We're going to pursue all legal options, including an appeal over the next several weeks and months. No van is one of thousands of organizations to put in place, robust diversity and inclusion programs, which we believe can co-exist alongside non-discriminatory blah , blah , blah , including white men. It's important that everybody knows this. Yeah . So , uh, it's important. Everybody knows that they're for diversity inclusion and equity for all, unless it involves white guys, especially old white guys who are very competent like that guy. So , uh , let's see what you have to say about this over from watching the watchers.locals.com. Now I do suspect that they appeal it. I'm not sure that they actually get $10 million, but we'll see, right. That's a big fat verdict. And we'll see what an appeals court does with that. They might narrow that down a little bit. We'll see speech unleash says, I suddenly have renewed faith that our whole society isn't completely woke. Whatever happened to picking the best person for the job, regardless of skin, sex, age, sexual preference, et cetera, I would feel so pathetic. If the reason I got hired for a job was due to something like my sex skin, color or ethnicity. So tired of things being looked at in terms of catering to the lowest common denominator. I agree with you completely. I think a better standard by which society should be structured. Is competence. Are you competent at the task? If you are well, we're going to consider that to be a nice quality and give you more responsibilities provided you continue to do them. Competently. It's worked pretty well. Be brave says to women, I questioned that. Well, we don't want to be presumptive here, right? We're not making fun of their physical appearance, but we just don't want to be presumptive. It is 2021. They do work for a very inclusive company. You know, who knows, you know , who knows how they identify. We don't know what their pronouns are. So that's all not being mean. Just don't know what their pronouns are. We don't know. We have, Sergeant Bob says, great verdict. Race relations were going well until this diversity mania. This is affecting my personal views. In many ways. I grew up in the fifties and sixties in Chicago. We've come a long way without quotas and unfair precedents . Our preferences. That's from Sergeant Bob, shout out to Sergeant Bob in the house and miss lucky. Good to see you both glad you're here. Leafy buck says, Rob, you are a white male and you didn't go to Oxford. So clearly you're not as smart as Jake Sullivan. It's very problematic. That's truly, if you bug thank you for reminding me, you know, I actually even had a hard time almost reading that sentence there. I got to remember. I didn't go to Yale. Yeah, well that's okay. I'm going to try to continue to live. Anyways. We have Barry masonary says one guy did what two women were hired for those women were surely underpaid, guest, gender equality, and pay didn't exist in that company. Yeah, it's the whole, thing's just comical. Now. I hope they have to pay $10 million. I hope it's worth it for them. I really do. I hope it's worth it. John Haugen says we've done it. We have successfully discriminated against everyone, everything. Everybody can you believe that this is the society that we're living in right now that we're having these arguments, that we're going into lawsuits and fighting for two years over hiring, you know, black and white and this race and that gender and this pronoun and all this crap. It's a healthcare company. They're supposed to treat people for medical problems. What are they talking about? I don't know. I guess if you have a more, you know, I guess healthcare is better. If you have a more diverse hospital or something, I don't know. Well, hopefully they figure it out and they don't get hit with another verdict. The last bill and says, I was just saying this yesterday, I was against affirmative action. This is evidence to people to just manage his duties. They didn't settle because they thought this woke environment was going to stack the jury in the cult's favor. Have to get these people in the pocket. Yeah. They're probably very surprised by that. All of these just big. It was probably a bunch of white guys on that jury. Can you believe that? I wonder what that jury selection looked like. Uh , but it is federal court. So it's a little bit different there . A BLM is here. Shout out to BLM in the house. Former Lao says, this sounds like the long, the night of the long knives, just like the country in Europe that can't be mentioned. How about the majority? Majority's that also got fired because it looks like a big payday for them. Uh, I'm not sure you're talking about there. Yeah. 10 million, 10 million is a big payday. That lawyer also got a big payday. I'm not guessed as a great, we can Sue when we were fired for our race. But when we can go after the discriminatory hiring practice, that practices, that award court quote points for your skin color and lack of dangly bits between your legs. But when can we go after the discriminatory hiring practice? Yeah. Yeah. So I, you know, I don't know, I'm not an employment lawyer. I'm not sure how any of that stuff works, candidly, but it seems, it seems like you'd be able to file a claim, right? If somebody comes in and they're and you say, I'm not going to hire you because you are a black man. That's a catastrophic problem, isn't it? Yes, it is. Right. It's a racist thing to do. And so now we have a situation where they're saying, well, we're not going to hire you because you're a white man. And isn't that isn't that also problematic? Like, isn't that standard problematic. I've always thought that, but I don't know I'm white. So what do I know? We have another one from , uh, from Ivana , something we're not gonna read. The last name says, I'm glad to see the outcome of this lawsuit. It was one on merit and truth. Not on white privilege , by the way. Thanks for ruining game of Thrones for me. I just started watching it last month. Well, you should've , I don't know what took you so long, by the way. It's not my fault. I'm not taking responsibility for that. Watch it faster. John Dolores says, as a white male, I'm discriminated against every day . That's why white men are committing suicide in droves. I happen to know something a little bit about that. Something kind of hit close to home in my family over that south end academy, which I don't disagree on a lot. There sounds , and academy says, competence, is that what we have in the white house? No, I'm not real sure what we have in there, but I wouldn't put this competence label on that. That's for sure. Chairman of the board says 10 million, just more white male privilege at work. If this were a woman they'd only be able to settle for 7.8 million because a woman doesn't make as much as a man. Everybody knows this. Welcome to the new America where everything is. So rotten Sergeant Bob says, would you then recommend my grandson go to ASU instead of Yale or Oxford? He does play high school football on an undefeated team this season, you know, Sergeant Bob, you know, I don't know what my thoughts are on college or higher education at this point. I , I would honestly, I would say if you have a purpose of foregoing , a serious answer would be, if you have a purpose for going to college, then I would consider that purpose. If you were, you know, just kind of go into figure life out. I'm not sure that I would do it these days. I think that used to be a kind of a good option because it was allowed you to go explore. Like that's what I did when I went to college, didn't know that I wanted to be a lawyer, knew I wanted to get into politics and public speaking started in political science. And in those four years I was able to sort of explore a couple things, try some things , uh , educationally and then make a decision. And I found law school kind of accidentally, but I knew I wanted to go in, you know, in that direction, but to be fair, right? There's a lot of other things that I could have done with my time. That would have been more productive. I feel like, honestly, I'm very lucky that I sort of stumbled into this career path that I'm in. Um, whereas I could have had a lot more structure, had been a lot more clear-headed about what I wanted to accomplish. And if I had that in mind, like if I knew I wanted to be a lawyer, I wouldn't have, have gone to ASU. Right. I would have picked a different school, but I wasn't really focused at that time. So I would say that it kind of depends on where your grandson is at, you know, but look, if you can get into Yale or Oxford and you want to be a part of the Jake Sullivan crew, make a lot of money, have a very easy life. All you have to do is wake up, go on CNN, read a bunch of garbage about why Afghanistan was a success. It's pretty cushy lifestyle. If you can get into Oxford or Yale and go hang out with those people, you know, may not be a bad thing. Uh, let's see, we have another one here from monster. One says, sorry, I think this gets overturned. Live in North Carolina. It's an at-will state, which means people can fire at will without cause then we'll get this in front of a lefty. Judge will vacate the judgment. It's probably not going to be a check being written for 10 million bucks, but it's still right . We take little victories when we have them . A white person is here. It says victory. It lasts for white supremacists. Oh yeah . I know that. That's a joke folks. I'm not actually saying that a Hitler, the artist not ate off. The artist is here. He says, oh, before moving to Germany, I was rejected twice by the Vienna academy of fine arts in my home country of Austria because I was white. I know exactly how this feels. Only if I had a better, last name like hunter, you know, sometimes you're so close, but yet, so far Hitler, worldwide dictator, hunter, amazing artist . Sometimes, sometimes people just, you know, catch the , the raw end of the deal. Especially if you're trying to be an artist, a Hitler, the artist cut the raw end of that one. Uh, GM [inaudible] says if he would've just said that he identified as a black male, he might've gotten two mil or 20 mil. And you know , I don't know what did George Floyd's family get? 27 million former Elio says, how about that nurse that refused to treat an unvaccinated cold? I don't know if I saw that story. Is that a, is that a real story? The Christiana says the argument is that even in our lifetimes, white men have had preferential treatment in preparing themselves, even in childhood for the workforce for a million different societal reasons that has some truth to it. So we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water, but we can't discriminate against anyone either. So people have to think outside the box to solve the problem. These people obviously didn't think it's a good comment there, Christiana, right? I think you can. I don't disagree with that. Right? Our society has structure for a lot of different things that are sort of maybe not as useful anymore, right? Like, like, you know, there was, I forget who I was listening to, but somebody said that we're living in a society built for the past in many ways. And you think about this, right? Like we still have a lot of houses that have landlines in them. Those were very useful in the eighties and nineties and two thousands, but not anymore, but we're still living in that world. We're still living in a world where we have roads and freeways that and sidewalks and , and, and, and cities that are not really built right now. Like if you just could just like in a video game, hit , uh , start over and keep all the people and resources and you had an hour to build a new city. You probably wouldn't build it the same way that a lot of these cities are currently laid out and built and how the , uh, you know, the sewage and the water mains. It's all layered on top of other things. And so you're going to have a lot of carry over. That's going to show up as inequities throughout society. There's no question about that. I'm not arguing about that here. What we're talking about is social engineering of corporations based on these socially constructed dividing lines, you know, like race and gender and all of this stuff in a company that's based on competence and providing healthcare . It's weird. It doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, if you want to live in any , I dunno we could spiral off on that, but good comment there. Christiana be brave, says my firm is proud that they've reached 30% female employees just saying, I mean, okay. I guess if that's , uh , something to be proud about, I guess, look , I'm just, if they're competent and they add value to the firm and they do a great job, I don't care what gender they are. You have 50 10%, five, 100%. I don't care. I'm not guessed as , uh , that was a spoiler on the , uh, uh , game of Thrones Mike. Oh, that's, that's an inappropriate Rob, have you ever been discriminated against as a white male? The , I can name a couple of instances and I'm not joking. Camila says, oh, well, Joe Sumi , if they replaced him with me, how much is the presidency worth? That's from common law. Couple more says game of Thrones last season, because it was so bad. Somebody should Sue them for $10 million. I agree. They should. What a disaster? John Dolores said, swing low sweet chariot coming forward to carry me home. White men need to rise up and start suing everyone. He's singing. He's singing the song , uh , of, of success there. Since the lawsuit came out, victoriously Jay , he says, it's a good thing. He won the case. Otherwise he might have to take up a new career like painting like hunter Biden. Does. Those were great questions and comments over from our [email protected], where we record this show live. We want you to come and join us the next time that we do come check us out, watching the watchers.locals.com. All right . And we've got one final segment on the show today, and we've got the Alec Baldwin's in the house. Now, a lot of clips on this because it's a big press conference, but we learned some new things today. So let's get into it. Now, Alec Baldwin, the investigation is still ongoing surrounding the rust shooting. We have some new players who came onto our board as we like to do here. Gotta check in and make sure we know who is doing what. So of course at the top, we have Alec Baldwin, the shooter, and we're going to hear from our two new additions to our board, Aiden Mendoza, he's the sheriff you see down here. We're also going to hear from Mary Carmack outweighs . She is the prosecutor in the district. Attorney talked about her yesterday. Learned a little bit more about her. She said specifically today that criminal charges against any of these other people, excluding of course the victims. This is how the Hutchins and Joel Sousa , but for these three individuals, which includes Alec Baldwin, Hannah Gutierrez read the armorer and Dave Hall's , there may be criminal charges coming . And in fact, nothing is off the table, not even for Alec Baldwin. And so we've got a big press conference today , uh, that took place. It was about 20 minutes, some interesting clips. We're going to go through them in turn. I want to start off by introducing us to the sheriff of Santa Fe county. This is Aiden Mendoza, and he kind of gave us just a brief introduction today about what we've already heard and learned about, but let's see how he is framing this for us today. This is the first press conference where we've heard from him and the prosecution and a little bit of framing here. Most of the conversation today was about the investigation is ongoing. We've got a lot to dig into. It's going to take a lot of time. Sheriff's office sent a bunch of this stuff over to the FBI, and they're going to be doing their due diligence, but we did learn some interesting stuff about the ammunition, about the bullets that were on the scene at rust, as well as the recovered bullet that came out of Joel Sousas shoulder. So we're going to start off here. Here is the sheriff telling us a little bit about the introduction, about how this all unfolded back on that fateful date . Here he is.

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Good morning, everybody. And welcome to the Santa Fe county Sheriff's office. I'm sheriff Ironman gossip, first and foremost, first and foremost, I'd like to offer our condolences to the Hutchins family, a speedy recovery to Mr. Sousa and our concern for the safety of all the men and women in the film industry on Thursday, October 21st, 2001 at 1:48 PM. We were dispatched to Bonanza Creek ranch in reference to a nine one one call advising that two people had been shot on a movie set. The first deputy arrived at 2:00 PM and EMS arrived at 2:01 PM. It was later determined that Halena Hutchins , the director of cinema cinematography and Juul Sousa . The director had been shot while rehearsing a scene on the movie rust. During the initial investigation, it was determined that actor producer, Alec Baldwin was the person that fired the weapon. We identified two other people that handled and or inspected the loaded firearm prior to Baldwin firing the weapon. These two individuals are armor Hannah Reed , Gutierrez and assistant director, David halls . All three individuals have been cooperative in the investigation and have provided statements.

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Okay? So some interesting details that are confirmed there for us and most of this, we already knew we've been covering this most days that we've had updates to cover, but we now know, right . It is those three people, the same people that we just circled here, they are now sort of the official suspects, right? Or the official people who might be suspect to , uh , or subject to criminal charges. Dave Hall's the assistant director. We know previously having talked about him, that there was , uh , allegations that he had screwed up some firearms stuff on other shows on other scenes, Hannah Gutierez read the courses 24 years. Old father is an armor or somebody with a lot of background, but this is it, right? These are the three people who were sort of in the purview. We also are going to hear that they were interviewing a lot of other people. We're going to hear that in the next clip, but a couple of other things to point out here, right? Everybody, according to the sheriff is being very cooperative. They're all sounds like, you know , working with the Sheriff's department, sitting for interviews, responding to requests. And so they are all communicating about this. And, you know, as a defense attorney, that makes me concerned, right? Unless they've got defense attorneys who were helping them with this process and the sheriff is now saying, well , they're communicating with us through their attorneys. Well, then that's a different story. But you know, the fact that they're responding and being interfacing and all of that . But my point here is if Hannah Gutierrez , Reed is being interviewed by the police without a lawyer or Dave Hall's is without a lawyer, right? Regardless of what you think happened, it happened here or whether they should or should not be prosecuted as a defense attorney. Not a good idea, right? You want to make sure that even if you're, if you're somebody who didn't do anything wrong, that by being overly, you know, useful and helpful and cooperative with the police, that you don't bury yourself under all of the fingers pointing your direction. So , uh, that was something I noted right away. Right. And I don't know what the extent of that is because we really don't know if they're , as we're going to hear, they really haven't initiated a criminal investigation, but they don't have to. During the, the underlying, you know, preliminary investigation there , that's where the criminal charges start. You start with a preliminary review, oh, this all got screwed up. We're going to review that against the statutes. Is there probable cause here, based upon our initial findings to warrant criminal charges, that's a separate determination. You sort of gather the facts, then you do the analysis after the fact. And so we now know it's these three people, the same three people that we've already long suspected, we're going to be in the cross hairs. And so , uh , next we have a clip from the sheriff who details a little bit more about the scene, right? And yesterday and yesterday, and the day before we talked a lot about the bullets, the type of ammo ammunition that may have been used in the gun specifically distinguishing between, you know , an actual bullets, a dummy round that looks like a real bullets , but doesn't have any powder inside the bullet. And then we have a blank, right? It has the actual projectile that had the tip of the bullet removed and is crimped near the top so that it doesn't, it actually causes an explosion, but it doesn't send a projectile outside of the barrel of the gun. We also learned yesterday that there were apparently actors or other people from the set who were plinking running around, you know , the , the , the surrounding area shooting guns are multiple guns is we're going to hear with what sounds like live ammo, right? Because you can't plank something, you can't shoot a beer can and have it plink when the bullet hits it with a dummy bullet or with a blink. So they were using live rounds, going around the Rosette, shooting all over the place. And something happened where the actual ammunition ended up in the loaded gun and killed a woman and injured somebody else. So they got a bunch of search warrants. We looked through the warrants, we had news now, Wyoming who sent that over to us and we covered it , uh , verbatim. We went through the entire search warrant. Here is what they found after executing that warrant. This is the sheriff of Santa Fe county.

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During this process, we determined that there were a limited amount of movie set staff precedent in the area where the actual incident took place. Although there were approximately a hundred people on set through the execution of search warrants. We have collected about 600 items of evidence. These include, but are not limited to three firearms, approximately 500 rounds of ammunition and several pieces of clothing and accessories.

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100 people, 600 items of evidence, three firearms, 500 rounds of ammo, clothing, and accessories. That's a lot, right? That's a lot of information. That's a lot of rounds of ammo. And , um, what's the standard on that, right? This is the stuff that we're going to be arguing about policies and procedures, and about who's responsible for what, who actually loaded it. Who's responsible for checking. It does any of that liability, that criminal liability extend up to Alec Baldwin. We don't know, but we know that there's a lot of different stuff. That's floating around here. Three different firearms, 500 rounds of ammo. Sheriff continues. He tells us more about this gun and they detail. This is some interesting data. They detail for us that there was an actual lead projectile came out of Mr. Susan's shoulder, in fact, and they're doing some additional testing on it. You'll also hear him use the word, the right. We got the, the live round out , right. One bullet is what he's saying. Then he's saying there were additional other live rounds on the set, which to me, and you might disagree. Which to me sounds like right? Other live ammunition, not other expended live rounds that came out of the gun. So it's sort of one bullet that went through two people, killing hell in the Hutchins, and then ending up in souses shoulder, which is where they actually extracted the bullets . And they were able to identify the same shell casing that , that came from the bullet. And they're going to be sending this over for more testing. Here is the sheriff.

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We believe that we have in our possession, the firearm that was fired by Mr. Baldwin, this is the w this is the firearm. We believe discharged the bullet. We also believe that we have the spent shell casing from the bullet that was fired from the gun. The actual lead projectile that was fired has been recovered from the shoulder of Mr. Sousa . The projectile was recovered by medical personnel, where he was being treated and turned over to the Sheriff's office. As evidence we regard this specific spent casing and recovered projectile to be the live round that was fired from the revolver by Mr. Baldwin, we have recovered what we believe to be possible additional live rounds, onset all the previous mention items along with other items of evidence will be submitted to the FBI crime lab in Quantico, Virginia for analysis.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So a lot of stuff going on there right. Spent casing led projectile, not sure that any of this stuff is really going to give us new insight into, you know, who done it in other words, or who to blame, or who's going to be responsible for this or where the inquiry leads, but we do get some information about it, right? We've got a shell casing, we've got a lead projectile. So we know it sounds like it was a live round. So any of the other, you know, any of the other concepts, like there was, yeah . Some people were saying that maybe it was a blank that had something lodged in the barrel, right. So even though it didn't have the head of an actual real bullet, because it didn't have the projectile at the tip, it was just sort of a , a blank with the explosive in it. If there was something in the barrel, the blank might still treat that object in the barrel as a projectile, it could have been something else that was sort of a freak accident. It doesn't sound like that. Right. It sounds like it was just a real bullet. Now that went through Helena and ended up in south sup , we've got one more quick clip of the sheriff. He's talking about criminal charges. And then I think we're going to turn it over to the district attorney who was also, you know, kind of contemplating what to do with this case. And as indicated as such that everything is on the table, here's the sheriff talking about probable cause

Speaker 8:

The investigation will continue. And if the Sheriff's office determines during our investigation, a crime has occurred and probable cause exists, arrest an arrest or arrest will be made and charges will be filed. Otherwise we will complete our investigation and forward the full investigation and evidence to the district attorney for review.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So write standard language that you're gonna hear from a sheriff, we're going to do our investigation. If we believe there's a crime has been committed, we're going to make the arrest. Otherwise, if we don't really know on this thing, we're going to turn it over to the county attorney, the district attorney in this case. And she is going to make a charging decision at that point. So he turns it over to her. Her name is Mary, and she has a hyphenated last name. I can't remember what it is, but she comes out here. She is, she's giving us some information about the prosecutorial perspective, right? She is now the charging agency. So police are sort of the, you know, the investigatory agency kind of gathering the, the witnesses, the information, but they're not going to be able to really, you know , do a good job deciding whether there was enough probable cause let's say maybe for , uh, Multiple avenues of, of criminal liability from Hannah Reed to David Hall's to Alec Baldwin. That's a complicated, legal analysis that needs to take place before you can come up with a significant charging in answer there. And so all of this is being passed over to the prosecuting agency, which is going to receive everything that the police do, that they get from the FBI, assemble it, and then make a charging decision. And she is not in any hurry as you're going to hear, they're going to be waiting sometime before we hear any conclusions on this,

Speaker 9:

I speak to the prosecutorial perspective here. And I must emphasize that a complete and thorough investigation is critical to da review. We take the corroborated facts and evidence and connect it to New Mexico law. And we are not at that juncture yet. If the facts and evidence and law support charges, then I will initiate prosecution. At that time. I'm a prosecutor that was elected in part because I do not make rash decisions. And I do not rush to judgment. I rely on facts supported by evidence cooperative and credible witnesses. And I cannot stress the importance of allowing the Santa Fe county Sheriff's office to continue with their quality investigation that is both serious and complex.

Speaker 1:

All right. So very serious, very complex. Give them space to do their work. It's going to take a long time. And I really, you know, I said this yesterday on the show, I don't think that we're going to get many answers here , uh , anytime soon, because there's a lot, that's going to go into it. And again, a lot of eyeballs on this thing and a lot of political pressure, no question about that. So , uh, another question went back over to the sheriff member of those 500 rounds that we talked about. Were those all live rounds? Or what was this? Was this a gun show what's happening here, right? I'm not that that's a lot of rounds, but this is what he had to say about this. He tells us the makeup of those 500 rounds.

Speaker 8:

No, I , I said there was a total of 500 rounds of ammunition that is a mix of blanks dummy rounds and what we are suspecting live rounds

Speaker 9:

And the director, the shoulder that was recovered.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So he says that 500 round make-up was a number of different things, live ammo, dummy rounds and blanks. And then this was the big takeaway of the hearing. This is the district attorney coming out. Cause everybody wants to know, are you going to charge Alec Baldwin? He actually pulled the trigger, right? He was sort of the producer. He's kind of the head honcho already knows who he is. Is he going to get charged with a crime here? He shot and killed a woman, right ? Regardless of what you think about the liability on his behalf, they want to know yes or no. Are you charging him so we can get on with this thing? Yes or no. And she is saying not so sure yet, but all options are on the table. Here. She is,

Speaker 9:

All options are on the table. At this point, I'm not taking, I'm not commenting on charges, whether they will be filed or not, or on whom. So the answer is we , we cannot answer that question yet until we complete a more thorough investigation, No one has been ruled out at this point,

Speaker 10:

Alec, Alec Baldwin considered a person of interest right now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah .

Speaker 8:

He's, he's obviously the person that fired the weapon. So we're going to continue interviewing and getting to , uh, getting the facts of his statements on the evidence and the case and possible witnesses or anybody that has any information. So right now he is an active part of this investigation

Speaker 11:

Likely to be likely to be.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So yeah . Yeah . Right. Yes. Yes. He is a person of interest. Yes. He had the gun in his hand and he shot her. So yes, you can't just say, oh, he's Alec Baldwin. He's famous. I love that movie that he was in. And that showed that time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Alec , Baldwin's fine. No, we're not even looking at him. It's that armor who did it. Okay. Those are , uh, those were the clips from the press conference today. Let's see what your thoughts are on the Alec Baldwin situation. See if we've got any thoughts coming in over from our friends, at watching the watchers.locals.com. And as we were going through those clips, I want to give a special shout out to my friend over at rumble, free Appalachian in the house, free appellation is I'm enjoying a $30 cigar right now, which means that's a very nice cigar, but unfortunately this is not a $30 cigar show. I apologize for that free appellation. Sorry . You had to crack one of those open. If I could do something special for you. I would, but it , you know, now we were getting into interesting territory there. So, all right. Our first question here on the Alec Baldwin segment is from Sergeant. Bob says, oh no, Mr. Rob , they are involving the FBI. When I was an officer in Oregon, we did it through the state crime lab. Same for when I worked in Illinois, perhaps Santa Fe county, New Mexico do not have access to the state crime lab. Yes. A lot of evidence, but it is all like a big science project. So Sergeant Bob a little bit skeptical that this was being sent over to the FBI because we all know the FBI, how good they are. I'm not so sure what they're going to be able to do with this. They're probably going to have to take , um , some of the , some of the staff, you know , probably some people from the eighth floor who are working on the where's Waldo game campaign that they're focused on and bring them over there to do some crime lab analysis. But does Alec Baldwin have any compadres over there who might, you know, tinker around with anything? I don't know. I'm just joking on . Just kidding. All right. We have another one from thunder. Seven says a good clips, more things that make Baldwin look more and more guilty. What, why would he be firing a gun during a rehearsal? Second, the movie script of rust is all about an accidental shooting. Here's a tick tock video Baldwin posted a few days. He talks about his admiration for Fowchee, how we're at war with the unvaccinated and how we have to make sacrifices. He compared it to world war 11. Seems very unhinged. Please watch it later. Rob. I will do that. I think I S I think I might've seen this actually, now that you mention it. Yeah. So that's over on bit . Shoot. I'll watch that later. Yeah. That's a , that's a interesting thunder seven. I think I did see that. I think somebody posted that on Twitter, the phone's kind of up here. You kind of look at him like this and he doesn't, he doesn't look really great, which is why I wanted to know if they did a blood drop Jay . He says, can the owners of Bonanza Creek ranch be sued by the husband of Hutchins for any wrongdoing, any liability here? Is this all covered under the insurance underwriters in the movie? You know, I don't know , uh , J Heath , uh , you know, they , they probably, you know, contracted a lot of that out away. Now, some things you can't sort of, you know , contract out of liability if, if it was their ranch and the house fell down on everybody, right. They might be liable for that unless, you know, insurance covered that. But this was sort of, I think, kept within the confines of the production. And so I'm not sure that they'd be able to escape. In other words, how in the Hutchins is the plaintiff she's bringing the lawsuit. How did what the owners of the ranch do contribute to her death other than just having the property? I'm not sure that they be able to escape sort of the bubble of the production company and go after the assets of anybody outside of that. But I don't know , I don't, I don't practice in that, in that particular space. I'm sure. Let me, let me clarify that. I know attorneys that, that their job is just to go find different ways to Sue people. So that just because I, it doesn't make sense in terms of justice. To me, it also doesn't mean that it's off the table, right there. Nobody is happy to be a part of this thing right now. Nobody we have old cat lady, not a grouch today. Well, that's good news says, is it possible to get a fingerprint off of a shell casing? Yeah, you can, to my knowledge, right. I've never actually seen that done or had it come up, come up often a case. Like we know it was your client because we've got a fingerprint on the shell casing, but, you know, you've, you've sort of seen it. Right. And I would presume that you can in certain scenarios, because remember right . A bullet, the, the, the shell casing is not doing much, especially in a revolver. Uh, it just kinda sits there. Right? So if you, if you, you know, mash your fingerprint on the side of it and you shove it in there and you fire the , the bullet, the only thing that really moves in there is the projectile coming out. The other end, the shell casing is just going to be right there. And so if you just pulled it out and set it down, I , I suspect you could probably pull something off of there if I had to guess. But , um, you know, who knows there , right? There was a lot of pandemonium. It might've hit the floor. It might've been, you know , stepped on. Who knows if they're gonna be able to identify what that is. And even if it, even if it comes back with a fingerprint, right? Somebody else loaded it, let's say for example, that handled the armor or loaded it up, but then handed it to David halls and David Hall's checks. It says, Nope, that's looking good to me. Here you go. Alec. Who's responsible for that. Could Hall's been , I don't know , Sergeant Bob says never, never, ever should live rounds, be anywhere near that set. I think that's the general rule. Uh, that would be the default rule, right? Like there's no, no live anything there because you're using guns that are being pointed at people. I agree. Chairman of the board says so interesting to see the prominent microphone at the press conference from the event is from entertainment tonight. Such a different situation. I would have loved to be a reporter at the presser so I could raise my hand and ask any word on when Alec Baldwin will resume shooting. I saw that one. I think I saw that at first from a malice or somebody like that. Yeah. It's a great, it's a great line. When is Baldwin going to be out there and resume shooting? That's almost like that Tom cotton statement, their chairman, it like just hurts. Like it's such a zinger. It , it hurts a little bit, which is why I love it. Thank you. We have speech on Lee says, can they really charge multiple people for the same incident? Or do you think they'll just lay it on one person, you know, in this case, I think it's hard to , um , hard to say, but yeah, they can charge multiple people for the same, for the same incident all the time. Yeah. I mean happens. The analogy we use speech is sort of a felony murder case where there are multiple people involved in some underlying offense that results in somebody being killed. They charge everybody involved. The analogy is the bank robbery analogy, the drive , the getaway driver, who never goes into the bank and kills anybody. But somebody dies. He's charged with murder, why a felony was being committed. And he was part of the same underlying group of acts. So he also gets charged with murder. It's like, it's, there are multiple ways where we're sort of several different activities, maybe independently by themselves, won't result in a criminal activity. But if you layer them on top of one another in a certain way, they all contribute to the underline , to the ultimate criminality. And then the law has to figure out who to charge and how to charge it. This is why it's going to be a complicated decision for the prosecutors. And we just don't know, right? They're going to have to go through it. [inaudible] which is why I said that they're going to take time to dig into this. It's not, it's not inappropriate. [inaudible] says , uh, whether or not there was any accountability to this tragedy. If they have any trace of a moral compass, Alec Baldwin, David Hall's Hannah reach and make it their mission in life to take care of and his children make sure they're okay. Too long, too young to lose a mama said, thanks, Rob, you pronounce my name. Right? Sweet, sweet. Glad I got that. Sometimes I, sometimes I can remember things. We have a former Elio says FYI, those types of period peace revolvers are known as single action. The hammer needs to be cocked prior to the trigger. Being able to fire the round. When the revolver is fired, the hammer must be manually cocked , which rotates the cylinder, bringing another round under the hammer and aligned with the barrel. And then it is able to be fired. The hammer must be in Aycock position to fire. Double action. Revolvers can be fired just by squeezing the trigger. Okay. That's good information. I did not. I think I knew that, but I wouldn't be able to articulate it like that. So what he's saying right? In a revolver, you've got the cylinders in the revolving cylinder there. And if you in a double action, if you pull the trigger, it will the hammer, rotate the cylinder and send the hammer back in there , firing the gun versus a single action, which you actually have to it. And that will rotate the revolver, bringing in a new unspent round. Then you press the trigger. The hammer is fired, hits the bullet launches the projectile. Good to know. Now I think he was also a member cross drawing. So he was sort of was doing one of these cross drawing and then pointing at the camera. And so if it's, if it's single action and it was already cocked and he pulls it and something goes wrong in there, maybe it goes off in that mechanism, in that movement. Versus if it's a double action, then he's pulling it out. He's going to have a harder trigger pull . Right? And the trigger pull is much different. I think between those two different , uh, when , when you distinguish between those two, when it's already cocked single action, it's more like a hair trigger . I've actually shot those guns. Right? So just pop it . It's it's much loose where if you have a double action, you've got to have enough pressure on the pole to actually rotate the cylinder, the hammer back, and then, and then, you know , send it forward. So interesting. Yeah. Trying to recreate that, that motion that Baldwin was doing be brave says based sheriff liberal prosecutor, Baldwin won't be charged. That's a good prediction. Uh, Nancy Pelosi's fund bag says, Rob, would you, would you grab mine like a game of corn hole ? Just throw it right there. Uh, Nancy Pelosi , uh , speech unleash says maybe bide will pull a , pull a few strings for Alec at the FBI. If he agrees to anonymously by one of Hunter's paintings. Sorry, couldn't resist. You know, that's not, that's not far out from reality here. Hunter Biden just sold like a $500,000 painting. Can you believe that crap? Jeremy MITRE says, Rob, not sure if you caught what the da said, but she did give a hint that someone may have changed their name to no one. She did say that no one has been ruled out as a suspect. That's true. Yeah. Mr. No one . He's a , a very, very popular person in the criminal world who stole that candy bar? No one did. I don't know who did that one mate , former Lao says we had our own crime lab. And the worst thing that could happen was having the FBI involved in any of our investigations. I'm from the government. And I'm here to help is a lie. That's from former Leo and nobody likes the feds. Nobody does. You know, those cop shows where the Fed's job. Look it , this is our investigation. Now the cops like the hell it is get out of my jurisdiction. It's true. As we, as we can see, monster one says, Rob, don't be a landline bigot. A lot of people live in rural areas with little to no cell service can survive without one. Not everyone lives in cities. That's true. That's true. Just add it to the list. Bigot, xenophobe, racist, Nazi landline. Sophisticated. What did they say? Oh yeah. All right. That's true. It's true. Muscle one . I don't know. You're right. I'm just a Scottsdale city. Boy. Sergeant Bob says prince can be recovered from casings, but just in case someone touched, it does not mean a fingerprint of value is found. Yeah, that's a good one. So Sergeant Bob got law enforcement now chime in, which is good because , uh , I don't know. I don't know some of the answers to these questions and this is the power of being able to do this segment live literally, right? Like we could do this another way. I could just record the segment and not take any questions. That would be very boring, but we can sort of learn in real-time on the fly. This is, what's so powerful about this. I'm so grateful to the community. Let's see, ACLU is here, said , oh, here we go. Here's a list of all my problems. Robert Gerler , he's a, right-wing sexist white supremacist organization. Every time I turn it on, all I see is some white guy ranting about random stuff in English, which by the way, is a white supremacist language. How about some diversity for a change? Well, I could be like Justin Trudeau and , and or the governor out of Virginia and put on blackface in my hot tub with my bikini eating a bunch of food. What was the other one that I'm not gas was talking about. People get on live streams and just eat a bunch of food. ACL use bringing it to me today. Alec is here. He says, now that I'm a JB spokesman on gun safety, don't pull the trigger. Let me do it. Old cat lady says you don't always expel the shell casing either, right? Yeah. You don't write in a revolver. It could just stay right in there, presumably. But I think we heard that maybe Hannah read may have actually pulled it out. Monster. One says sometimes the accomplices get more time than the shooter. I've seen cases where the shooter gets 20 years and the driver gets life interesting. Yeah. Anybody involved in the underlying, you know , common, they call it a common scheme or plan can be subject to extended liability. Jay . He says, I really hope Alec Baldwin learns to humble himself. As a result of this accident can learn to check his ego at the door in the long run. This might actually result in him actually becoming a better human being. And you know what, Jay Heath, I absolutely agree with you and endorse that idea, right? You know, people look tragedies happen in people's lives all the time, right? People are humbled by life. People can be at the top of the game. I've seen it personally. I felt it personally, when you sort of think that you're, you've got everything in order on top of the world, life will humble you. And I think it's important that we all have empathy for people who get humbled because we could be next. Right? You could wake up one day, boom, you get hit by a bus. Now you're in a wheelchair. And so we all just have to remember that as we're going through these conversations. Yes. It's okay to, you know, indulge in a little bit of shod and Freud every now and then. Yes. Sometimes, you know, true happiness is seeing your neighbor fall off the roof. I get that. I get those instincts. I get the politics as a bloodsport . I get that. It's fun to come in here and dunk on people. But at the end of the day, right, we have a dead woman. We have a man's life. Who's ruined many other people's lives who were ruined. And it's a , it's a tragedy through and through. And so when you are in a situation like this, where there's just nothing but tragedy, you are hopeful that on the other end, somebody learns something and comes out a little bit better than they went into it. Otherwise it's just a tragedy, right? There's nothing good that comes out of it. And so, you know, we want to be empathetic and we want to make sure that we can be a part of a productive conversation in a small way. That's what we're trying to do here. John Haugen says, if he wanted the action to seem smooth, he very well could have had the hammer back. I really doubt we will ever know the truth. So he could have been just, you know, on a hair trigger , just boom, pops it off. And maybe it wasn't the right time to go off. Maybe that's where the negligence was. Uh , Jeremy says, Rob, I believe the firm would be a telephone. That is the right fee . I didn't know what it was a telephone. Yeah. Which is just the worst fire that says, you say your show, isn't a $30 cigar show. How about a $30 bottle of wine? I enjoy listening to you and all the comments from your fans. I still can't get past the fact that Alec had control of the weapon blame game is frustrating and society as a whole, that's from fired at 58, $30 bottle of wine. Yeah. Sounds like a good bottle. Yeah. He did have control of the weapon. Right. And I think that's where a lot of people are falling on this issue. It's he had it. It was a gun when you're eight years old and you go shooting, they teach, you always check the gun, right. The instructor gives it to you or your uncle gives it to you. Look at it and make it is a safety off. Uh , yeah, it is okay. Pointed at the thing don't point. Okay. All right . You're it's a deadly weapon. It's a prop. It's a , it's a movie scene, but it is a deadly weapon. And I don't know how this works on set yesterday. Eat on test told us that Mount , maybe in fact, the actor or the person at the very end, right. He's focused on something else. Somebody else needs to make sure that everything is in order because he's acting he's right in the middle of the scene. He doesn't have time to check all that stuff, but we don't know. And again, if he's cross shooting, how much time elapsed between the time David halls said cold gun gave it to Baldwin. And he did the cross training rehearsal shoot a lot of questions, right? This whole thing probably happened within a matter of seconds. And fortunately it wasn't being recorded. Uh, Bo bolder eyes . Me [inaudible] says, Rob, you can holster this ideal for later, but do you think the da should take aim through everyone to Alec? Or will she make a quick draw on the celebrity card and unload the charges on someone else? It sounds like she'll take a deep breath before pulling the trigger thinks she's got a shot at emptying the clip of New Mexico laws on anyone. Keep up the good work. Another shooting pun. Look at Bal valorize me. I don't know how you do it. That's pretty impressive. It's beautiful. Uh, you know, I'm not sure. I'm not sure how this shell is going to crack. How about that? Well, we'll leave it there. That's all I've got for you. I'm not guest . As the crows at Quantico ring the bell at the Zenith, Zulu we'll know what to do with this information. All right . So we've got communication from locals to our unlisted, YouTube jet talking in code. We're all part of the same community, but there's just two chats going on. Uh , old cat lady says, love your sense of humor. Laughter is the best medicine in these times. Thanks old cat lady. What else can you do? I mean, honestly, other than just pokes and funded some of this stuff and go through the news, a former and learn, right? We're learning and having good conversations. Former Elio says, just wait until the lift an unknown. They lift an unknown print from the cartridge case. Yeah. What if there's a, what if there's a fourth man on the grassy Knoll? What could happen then Alex says, chairman, I resent your question about me resuming shooting. I feel like that is a loaded question, although I'm not really sure the shooting funds a former Leo says, or he palmed it with his hand to it finger on the trigger, depressed . The gun will finger on trigger and depressed. The gun will fire when the hammer is cocked because it won't catch the trigger with the trigger depressed. So what he's saying here is that the trigger is already depressed. So as soon as the hammer is, is cocked and there's nothing to catch it. So it will just fire back, hit the primer and trigger the bullet. And our last one from Sergeant Bob says, somebody, please call the pun police we need, we do. We need, we absolutely need a full-time pun and food condiment law enforcement team over here. Maybe I should send Merrick, Garland a letter, and then he can write a new memo. Just kidding. I love the puns and I love tomatoes and pickles and all of them. So that's all great stuff from our [email protected] . Thank you for all of your support over there. A lot of great questions and conversation that took place on the show today. So we hope you join us [email protected], where we're welcoming some amazing new people who joined up. We have a Roy bot who signed up welcome Roy robot . We've got Ronnie Cole who joined in the house. Ronnie Cole. I've seen a lot on YouTube. 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