Americans Stranded in Afghanistan, Pentagon Vaccine Mandates & More, Owen Shroyer January 6 Case

The Biden Administration continues to confuse on the Afghanistan withdrawal, with mixed messages from Secretary of State Antony Blinken and the Pentagon. The Department of Defense through Secretary Lloyd Austin mandates vaccines for all service members, as other states and institutions around the country continue mandate fever. Federal Judge asks U.S. Attorneys about their inconsistent media policy in the prosecution of January 6 protestors in the Owen Shroyer case.​

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🔵 Secretary of State Tony Blinken says there may be 1,500 Americans who are left in Afghanistan.​
🔵 John Kirby, spokesperson for the Pentagon, says they will continue evacuations until the last minute.​
🔵 Two congressmen, Democrat Seth Moulton and Republican Peter Meijer, visited Kabul on an unauthorized trip.​
🔵 Video footage shows people in Afghanistan wading through water (or sewage) with their papers trying to get into the airport.​
🔵 Politico reports that the White House, via Chief of Staff Ron Klain, are seeking accolades on their Afghanistan withdrawal performance.​
🔵 Delta Air CEO Edward Bastian is going to penalize his employees with a $200 non-vaccination fee.​
🔵 Oregon Governor Kate Brown issues new order mandating masks in public outdoor settings.​
🔵 In Washington, Eatonville Highschool received funding to track students for the coronavirus with ankle monitors.​
🔵 What is the Triax Proximity Trace ankle monitor and why did the school deploy it?​
🔵 Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin issues a new order mandating vaccines for all service members.​
🔵 Review of the Mandatory Coronavirus Disease Memo for all leadership and commanders.​
🔵 Are lawyers next for vaccine mandates?​
🔵 Owen Shroyer, Infowars.com journalist, turns himself in for a federal arrest warrant stemming from the January 6 incident.​
🔵 Federal Judge Zia Faruqui hits prosecutors over their failure to explain their media policy and their charging decision in this case.​
🔵 Review of the Addendum Order in U.S. v. Shroyer and the Prosecutor’s explanation regarding the Court’s inquiry.​
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Speaker 1: 0:00

Hello, my friends. And welcome back to yet. Another episode of watching the Watchers live. My name is Robert Mueller. I am a criminal defense attorney here at the RNR law group in the always beautiful and sunny Scottsdale Arizona, where my team and I over the course of many years have represented thousands of good people facing criminal charges. And throughout our time in practice, we have seen a lot of problems with our justice system. I'm talking about misconduct involving the police. We've got prosecutors behaving poorly. We have judges not particularly interested in a little thing called justice. And it all starts with the politicians, the people at the top, the ones who write the rules and pass the laws that they expect you and me to follow, but sometimes have a little bit of difficulty doing so themselves. That's why we started this show called watching the watcher so that together with your help, we can shine that big, beautiful spotlight of accountability and transparency down upon our system with the hope of finding justice. And we're grateful that you are here in with us today because we've got a lot of news to get into. We're still talking about Afghanistan, probably going to be talking about Afghanistan for the next three years or so. So we're going to take a look at what's going on here. We had secretary of state Tony Blinken was out saying some things that the administration is doing. Then we have John Kirby over at the Pentagon Hussein, kind of some other things that the administration is doing. We've got two congresspeople who took a secret trip over to Kabul, and we're going to hear from them, see what they say, the conditions look like on the ground and all this. Meanwhile, the Politico website is reporting that the white house is a little bit upset with the media for not patting their back, giving them a bunch of accolades for this very well-executed withdrawal from Afghanistan. So a lot there in the Afghanistan segment, we're going to start off with the show, uh, right there. Then we're going to change gears, jump back into some COVID news because we've got more vaccine mandates that are coming out all across the United States of America. We're going to see what is happening with Delta. They're going to be charging their employees$200 a month. I think in a, I guess it's a non vaccination fee, something like that, kind of a new thing. So we're going to see what is taking place with that airline. We're going to go over to Oregon because the governor over there, a crazy person named Kate brown is now mandating masks if you're outside, even so not only inside but outside. So that's fun in Washington, just north of Oregon. We're going to take a look at a high school that is now putting ankle monitors on their students to track their COVID movements. So that's going to be fun. It's called the Triax proximity tracer ankle monitor. So that's actually been deployed in high schools in Washington state. Take a look at that. And then we, of course, we got to see what a defense secretary, Lloyd, Austin, the guy who double mast and put a face shield on. It's supposed to be sort of the, the tough guy of the DOD department of defense. He is now mandating vaccines for the entire DOD for all of the, uh, all the Pentagon, all DOD employees have to, uh, now get vaccinated. So we'll take a look at some of the stuff and actually review the, the memo that came out from the department of defense. So that's going to be fun. And then in our last segment, we're going to check back in on the Owen Shroyer case. Owen Shroyer was the info wars journalist who was up on stage near the white house with Alex Jones and some other people in the media. As we know, we talked about this earlier last week, he had to turn himself in on Monday because the FBI issued an arrest warrant for him, for being there on January 6th. And so he had court yesterday, have a little bit of an update on the case because there's something interesting going on here. The judge is asking the us attorney's office to say, Hey, what's your policy with regard to the people in the media with regard to journalists, it sounds like you just sort of arrested this guy, but there were other journalists who were covering the media. Why were they not arrested? Do you have a consistent policy as it relates to members of the media? Because now we have competing interests. Don't we we've got the right to protest and free assembly. We've got the ability, the desire to protect the Capitol, to make sure that it's not inserted at any time. And you've also got this very important interest of journalists that are supposed to be reporting on these things. And he is kind of in that, in that area, right? He's with Alex Jones, part of info wars, which you know, used to be this organization that people scoffed at, it turns out they had been right, most of the time on a lot of different things that are happening these days. So we're going to take a look at a lot of different stories. If you want to be a part of the show, the place to do that is over@andwatchingthewatchersdotlocals.com where they're chatting away over there. Shout outs to farmer's daughter. We've got K cell over there. Zeller's S M Careem 1 65. Jeremy Matrine is in the house. VMT kiss prime aunt Deb. And the list goes on what's up or dossier as well. All chatting away@watchingthewatchersdotlocals.com over on YouTube shout outs to John Haugen. No, you won't get none. We've got Sarah Brown Kevlar 63 Danette is in the house just because, and several others. If you're a member over at locals, there's a very nice form that you can use. It makes it convenient for me to go through the questions that you may have as we go throughout the show. This is what it looks like. If you click that, ask a question, sort of a keep it. If you can keep the question on the segment that I'm talking about, then when I finished the segment, I'll go right into those questions and we'll be able to see if we can get to those. Also super chats are now active. You may remember we now didn't used to have these about two months ago. And so those are now available. They show up on the screen like that. If you want to support the show there, you can do that as well. Oh, quick reminder. Before we jump into it, all of the clips, remember we used to segment out the clips, cut the segments out and re-upload them. Those were being moved to a different channel. It's the clips channel. You can see it right there. Make sure you search the word clips and just go subscribe over there. If you want those six, the clips and the segments. If not, you don't have to do a thing. Isn't that nice? All right. So enough of that, let's get into the news of the day, Afghanistan, Joe Biden in the Biden administration. They're still trying to sort of tease this thing out. Kind of draw out the meat sauce from the meat balls, from the spaghetti, it's all a big mess. And they're trying to sort of figure out how to unpack all of this. And so one of the biggest questions we've been having here has been about the total number of Americans that are still stranded, or if you're gen Saki, not stranded in Afghanistan, we've talked about the three different layers of analysis here. The idea that, well, you can have a, an agreement or disagreement about the original decision to leave Afghanistan. You could have another disagreement. It's a whole separate issue about the mechanism of leaving Afghanistan. That's kind of layer two. And then the response to the leaving of Afghanistan, that's layer three, the response to the botched with, and you want to measure that leadership on its own pedestal to somebody. I agree. And so we've been watching what the Biden administration has been doing. Largely acknowledging that leaving Afghanistan was a good decision, right? It's something that many people in America want to have happen. The question has been about the mechanism and then in response, the leadership to the problematic withdrawal. So the biggest question that I've had in many people have had is how many Americans are still over there? How many people we know August 31st is coming up here pretty soon, like really soon. And we need to know how many additional Americans should be evacuated out of there. And the administration has been very, very sketchy with this number. We've been trying to pin them down on it as have many people in the media to say, Hey, how many are in that bucket? They come out every day with new numbers. Oh, we, we moved a 6,000 people. We moved 4,000 people. We moved 2000 people. That's great. That's really, really great. If the total's like 5,000 or 10,000 people, that means 2000 a day, we've got six days left. Okay. So that sounds like we might get everybody, but we don't know what that total number is. And so 2000 out of 40,000, that's not so good, especially if we've got six days left. And so now as it's basically time to pack up, right, you start packing up an operation like this before you have to leave. You don't just say, oh shoot, honey. It's, um, it's August 31st and checkouts at 11:00 AM. I guess we better pack up and get outta here. Huh? That's not how that works. Right? They've got a huge military operation is 5,500 soldiers or 6,000 soldiers, or however many that Biden had to send back in there. They all got to pack up and go. So the evacuation, the withdrawal is kind of already starting right now. And now it's getting very clear that we need to know how many Americans are going to be left over there. And so CNN was able to get a number out of secretary of state Anthony Blinken today saying approximately 1500 people who may be Americans don't even know are left in Afghanistan. He says, so he came out on Wednesday. It's at approximately 1500 people who may be Americans left and left in Afghanistan. Like as of, kind of today kind of now, and this pay attention, pay attention. Even though we have a number it's really hard to tell what this number is, is this the number of Americans who've been in contact with the secretary of state? Is this the number of Americans that we think are outstanding, that, that, that have not been in contact. There's all different categories. And they're trying to sort of paper over this number because it's a, it's a, it's a bad number and as much confusion as they can keep surrounding issue about how many Americans are left. Well, that, that, that serves them. We saw Jake Sullivan earlier in the week saying, well, it's kind of American's fault that they're still there. They could have left a long time ago. They came here. Maybe they should have left some time ago. And also sort of saying, it's hard to measure how many Americans are there in the first place. People go to Afghanistan. They don't tell us about it. People leave Afghanistan. They don't tell us about it. And so what was us the U S government, the people who plan for every contingency who are patting themselves on the back of this as a beautiful evacuation, uh, are flying in the dark. Well, we don't know. So now we're able to dial into a number. We've got 1500 people who may be Americans left in Afghanistan, don't know, adding that when evacuation operations began, there was a population of as many as 6,000 who wanted to leave blink and said that they have evacuated at least 4,500 Americans and likely more since August 14th, 500 evacuated in the last day

Speaker 2: 9:45

Alone, which is great. That's good. Ideally, you get them all,

Speaker 1: 9:50

But not so sure that that's going to be possible because we don't know what the total number is. He said, quote, over the past 24 hours, we've been in direct contact with approximately 500 additional Americans and provided a specific instructions on how to get to

Speaker 2: 10:02

The airport safely for the roughly

Speaker 1: 10:04

Remaining 1000 contacts. See that that we had, who may be American seeking to leave. We're aggressively reaching out to them multiple times a day through multiple channels of communication, which is that same stupid line that Jake Sullivan and Jen Saki were saying, this is

Speaker 2: 10:21

Tire week. Oh, look, don't tell them

Speaker 1: 10:24

The worst stranding Americans. Okay. We've been calling

Speaker 2: 10:27

Them and emailing them and text

Speaker 1: 10:29

Messaging them. Okay. Fox news. What else do you want me to do? Send a carrier pigeon over there. You know, sort of acting what was me like we've been doing everything we can humanly possible to reach these people in the middle of Afghanistan in the middle of a war zone. The Taliban have taken over. I wonder if their cell phone service is very good in a failed state where the infrastructure is crumbling around everybody. Maybe their wifi is down. I don't know, but the U S government is doing their best. And they're very frustrated that you're not acknowledging that. So it says here, you can see very carefully. This language is certainly, you know, interesting says of the roughly remaining, what is this 1000 contacts? I don't know what that means that we had, who may be Americans.

Speaker 2: 11:05

So it's just, uh, we're aggressively reaching out to them. Okay.

Speaker 1: 11:09

We really don't know what that means. 1000 context. So does that mean that those are the number of Americans who reached out saying, I want to get out of here. Yep. You said any American who wants to leave, wants to leave? That's me come get me. Is that that, or

Speaker 2: 11:22

Is that the

Speaker 1: 11:25

Pickens that they suspect are still there that have not reached out as

Speaker 2: 11:28

Well? Probably not.

Speaker 1: 11:30

Right. This is probably the people that they said have reached out to us. So we'll be curious of what that means. 1000 contacts they reached out to you. You reached out to them because we're going to see here that the numbers don't exactly match. Do they? Jake Tapper earlier today, this was before Anthony Blinken spoke. So he posted this and then blink and came out and apparently corrected this number. But this is what he was hearing. He said in a briefing to staff, state departments at 4,100 American citizens are still actively seeking to get out of Afghanistan, set a Senate aid. Not all Americans are located in or around Kabul. The U S has evacuated approximately 4,400 already. And we saw numbers, right? We saw a big, broad spectrum of numbers from 10,000 to 40,000. Maybe more than that. And the administration up until today is not really given a clear number on that at all. Well, we don't really know. Jake Sullivan said, no, they don't register with us. So how can we possibly know? So Jake Tapper says there was congressional staff. Congressional staff reported this back to Jake Tapper over at CNN. And apparently the state department then came out and corrected that it wasn't 4,100. It was actually 1500 Americans who are still in contact with the state department per Anthony Blinken. So who knows, right? Who knows what the numbers are that the administration has been all over the place on a lot of this stuff Blinken said on Wednesday, it's hard to overstate the complexity and the danger of this effort. There's a very real possibility of an ISIS K attack. So we have an ISIS K, so we'll probably have a lot of those different variants as well. We've got a lot of COVID variants, ISIS, K you know, ISIS, uh, Delta ISOL, ISIS Lambda, whatever we've got were operating in a hostile environment. He said, and the city controlled by the Taliban with the very real possibility of an ISIS K attack. We're taking every precaution, but this is very high risk. He says, as the president said yesterday on track to complete our mission by August 31st provided the Taliban continues to cooperate. There was no disruption in this effort, meaning that the United States is sort of at the Beck and call of the Taliban provided they continue to cooperate if they don't. Well, the whole, the whole ball game changes because we have no leverage over there. He said, there is no deadline on our work to help any remaining American citizens who decide they want to leave to do so. That's a very unequivocal statement. There is no deadline on our work to help any remaining American citizens who decide they want to leave to do so. Along with many Afghans who stood by us over these many years and have continued and have been unable to do. So he says that effort will continue every day, past August 31st. See that I wanted to spend time on that because that's a pretty clear, it's pretty unequivocal. It says, look, this administration, the state department, we're going to do everything. We can no deadline. The effort's going to continue past August 31st. If you're an American, if you want to come home, you can come home. Just like Obama said, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor that didn't really work out. But in this case, they need it this time. This is the second version of that administration says. They mean it this time. If you want to come home, you can come home. We'll see if that happens. Now on Tuesday. It's very interesting because Blinken is saying that every effort is going to continue every day past August 31st, but then on Tuesday, one day yesterday, it said Biden confirmed that he's not going to extend the evacuation deadline beyond August 31st. So it literally from a CNN article, the exact next sentence says the opposite of that. President Joe Biden is acknowledging the growing threat and he's not going to extend the evacuation deadline beyond August 31st. So in the same article, you've got sort of a conflict there. You've got the secretary of state saying effort is going to continue everyday. Past August 31st, Joe Biden says, oh no, we're not going to extend the evacuation deadline because the deadline is August 31st. So it sounds like if you're an American and you want to get evacuated, the secretary of state says you're good after August 31st. If you're the president, not so much. So what's going on there. I wonder if there's somebody here who can break the tie between these two, because we have the secretary of state and the president, and there, they're not really in a uniformity here are we. So let's take a look at what the Pentagon has to say. Maybe they can break this tie. Here is John Kirby. RNC research said, we're going to evacuate people, Americans up until the end. That was his quote. Here it is. If

Speaker 3: 15:47

You're an evacuee that we can get out, we're going to continue to get, get you out right up until the end. But in those last couple of days, we're going to try to preserve as much capability as we can on the, on the, at the airport, as you might imagine. So in those last couple of days, uh, we will begin to prioritize military capabilities and military resources to, to move out.

Speaker 1: 16:10

Yeah. Yeah. So, so the Pentagon breaks, the tie, Joe Biden wins. You're not getting out after August 31st up until the end is what the Pentagon said. No, we're going to keep it. Look if we can get you out and you want to get out, we're going to get you out of there up until the end. But it's kind of like right now, because we have to start thinking about the withdrawal, actually getting the last airplanes up off the ground. Remember this is sort of like a world war Z movie where there's Zuora, uh, hoards of people that are sort of looking like zombies in a Hollywood movie, they're going to be crashing upon the runway. If the Taliban, according to this administration is not cooperative and keeping them at bay. So yeah, they've got a lot of work cut out for them and they need to start planning for that because they only have six days left. So, uh, it seems like maybe the focus is, is sort of shifting from saving Afghanis or from saving us American citizens and into transitioning away from there. All right. So let's see, uh, some confusion from the administration course. John Kirby says, now we're out of there. August 31st president Biden says, yeah, we're out of there. August 31st Blinken comes out. Nobody really knows what he's talking about. 4100 1500, who knows talking about the contacts that are being made. Nobody's asking about that. They're asking about American citizens who were still in Afghanistan, not whether you got a text message from them or not. That's great. If you did, you should count that that's a person who wants to get out of there. And so you should add that to your tally, but don't report back to the American people. Like this is a great thing. We've got a thousand contacts over there. You got six days left there by my man. Probably want to get on that. So, uh, we, we don't really know how things are going on the ground from this administration. They've been hiding the ball for a long time, but we fortunately have some congresspeople, a bipartisan unifying unity agreement. Look at these two guys. We've got a Democrat, Seth Moulton over here. He's in Massachusetts sixth district. Us house of representatives took office in 2015. We got a Republican Peter, my air over in Michigan's third district, both from M states. He's in the third district, took office on January 3rd. So he's a newbie. And he replaced Justin Amash, the libertarian, who was a sort of a strong anti Trumper. Now these two guys, former military, they went over to cobble. This was an unauthorized trip, which is causing a lot of, uh, uh, grief for the administration. They're unhappy about it. Washington examiner is telling us that this pair, they went there to members of Congress. We have democratic rep, Seth Moulton, Massachusetts Republican rep Peter, my air, Michigan. They made a secret unauthorized whirlwind trip over the cobble airport on Tuesday to see the chaotic situation. We have two congressmen were reportedly there for less than 24 hours. They traveled on their own time on a commercial plane to the UAE. Then on an empty military flight, then back out of cobble on a plane that had at least three empty seats to ensure there was extra capacity. Both members are veterans have been critical of president Biden's handling of the withdrawal molten who had a short-lived presidential bid in 2019 as a decorated combat vet. That's the Democrat. So he went over there. He served four tours in Iraq. My air was an army reserve intelligence specialist. He was also deployed to Iraq. So we've got two gentlemen over there who have some experience in combat situations, both in Iraq, specifically combat veteran, four tours, Iraq and other, another tour in Iraq. These two guys, the white house is not happy about this. A lot of unnamed officials were out there, you know, posting in the, uh, uh, I guess New York times or wherever I was reading this saying that this was totally responsible that these are, uh, you know, to, to people who are taking seats from other Afghans. And they're, you know, making a political show over a very troublesome situation and more bodies. There are just going to complicate things. And so they were very upset about that. Well, I can understand that. I've also seen several pictures. I don't think I clipped any of them for the show, unfortunately, of empty aircraft, leaving the Kabul airport, nobody on board because the state department is not processing people fast enough. We're going to get into that here in a little bit, but let's see what these two gentlemen reps molten and my ear had to say about their trip because they put out this press release from Washington. They say, as has been publicly reported, we recently went to Cabo to conduct an oversight on a mission to evacuate Americans after their departure. They issued the following statement. These two gentlemen, as veterans, we care deeply about the situation on the ground in cobble America has a moral obligation. We got to keep it like many veterans. We spent the last few weeks working without sleep to try to get as many people as possible home. As members of Congress, we have a duty to provide oversight over the executive branch. There's no place in the world right now where oversight matters more. We conducted this visit in secret. Speaking about it only after our departure to minimize the risk and the disruption to the people on the ground. And because we were there to gather information, not to grandstand, we left on a plane with empty seats, seated in crew, only sees to ensure nobody who needed a seat would lose one because of our presence. Washington should be ashamed of the position. We put our service members in, but they represent the best in America. These men and women have been run ragged and are still running strong. Their empathy and dedication to duty are truly inspiring. The acts of heroism make America proud. We came into this visit wanting like most veterans to push the president to extend the August 31st deadline. After talking with commanders on the ground and seeing the situation here. It is obvious that because we started the evacuation so late that no matter what we do, we won't get everyone out on time. Even by September 11th, sadly and frustratingly, getting our people out depends on maintaining the current bizarre relationship with the Taliban. His words, not mine. In coming days, we will have more to share with our colleagues in the American people about what we learned, but after meeting with Marine soldiers and everybody else, we want the world to know we've never been prouder to be American. So yeah. Very interesting point. The bizarre relationship with the Taliban. Totally. It is bizarre, right? It sort of just flipped like within a month from America's enemy, these, you know, fifth century cave, dwellers who stone women and execute people by beheading them. All of this stuff is insane. The way that they live and the way that they conduct themselves is reprehensible right. America. And so that's why we decided for the last 20 years to go out there and do something about it. And then suddenly, whoa, that's not how it is anymore. Now the Taliban might get a seat on the UN gender council or something like that. What? Yeah. So it is a bizarre relationship happened very interestingly, it, it happens quickly when your enemy wants everything they can get from you. And they have, I don't know, thousands of American hostages, no wonder they have really, really elevated their position pretty quickly. All right. So we are hearing from the two Congress people that it's not looking like all the Americans are gonna get out, get out of. There wouldn't even get out of there by nine 11, let alone August 31st, which is in six days from now. So a couple other notice notices here on Twitter as to why this is becoming so problematic. Why can they not get more people out more quickly while some of the problems are just coming right from the state department? Gareth brown said someone I'm close contact with made it to the gates of the Kabul airport last night after literally waiting through a sewage drain only to be told that they're now accepting us passport and green card holders. This person has an SIV special immigration visa. Is that it? Then the rest are cut adrift. This was on August 25th, early this morning, which would be sort of daytime over in the following day. So I guess that's it. People are mailing. We have over here, Eric, you Mansky says a former CIA officer rescue, I'm sorry, organized a rescue, uh, 500 Afghan interpreters and other special visa holders. They all made it to the airport. Then they were kicked out by the state department. It's from the New York times, says Mr. Zeller is one of many us veterans who mobilized to help their former colleagues got 500 SIVs. They were able to get the Afghans inside the airport. He said, but we're turned back by what he described as a state department checkpoint. Very, very interesting. Why is the state department turning around SIVs on August 24th? Hmm, interesting. Very curious. Sounds like this may not be the most, uh, impressive air evacuation effort that we've ever seen. Speaking of the sewage and the, uh, the situation outside of Afghanistan here is what Ian panel over on Twitter posted. It said devastating scenes at the Kabul airport. Knee-deep in sewage, waving their papers begging to be let in. You can see this right. Everybody's raising their papers. Hey, Hey, but we've been working with you for 20 years and we'd like to get out of here. Here's what it looks like.

Speaker 4: 25:04

[inaudible]

Speaker 1: 25:05

All right. So, uh, not, not an ideal situation, certainly. Uh, you know, heart goes out to all of those people who are just trying to save their lives. So, uh, that's nice. Now the administration we're going to hear from them. They're very upset that a lot of people in the media have been giving them a hard time. I guess people like me. Who've just been saying that this whole thing has been completely botched and they're all incompetent. They're not happy about that language. I don't care, but we are going to make sure that we, uh, hear from their own side. This is from an MSNBC. This is a reporter over there. Uh, that, that is not happy with this. And he's going to be very sort of reserved, but listen to what he has to say about the current situation.

Speaker 5: 25:42

If you step back and you look at what is going on, this is the United States. After 20 years, this war used to be called operation enduring freedom, and it's turned out not to be enduring and they're not leaving behind a society that is free. It is only free. According to what the Taliban says, it will be pre at the Taliban promises that it will be free. So, uh, you could also look at this as a tremendously humiliating, immediate moment of American humiliation, leaving forced to leave on the Taliban's clock. Uh, and, and with the Taliban's good graces. So tactically, it makes sense, but I'm not sure how history will. I think history will judge this moment as it has a very dark period for the United States.

Speaker 1: 26:26

Wow. That's over from MSNBC. Wow. I mean, that's so, you know, either they're just warmongers or they're, they're serious as to what they're reporting. This is a, this is a bad situation. They're on the ground over there. So, uh, you know, they know what it looks like. And, uh, it's not really in conformity with what the white house. In fact, the white house is not happy about that clip. They want less of those. They want props. They want props on Afghanistan prop, you know, give me the fist bump. Yeah, we did a good job. This is over from Politico. You can see here in the span of a week, the white house went from struggling to explain a rapidly deteriorating situation to beating its chest. We heard this yesterday. We've been hearing this from the white house, from Jen Saki, who is telling us every single day that they're doing great. And you know, Anthony Blinken says, listen, don't be so hard on us. This is very emotional. We're emotional over here. I know you're emotional too, Chris Wallace, but so am I. And so as Joe Biden, we're very sad and we've had a difficult day and I didn't sleep very well last night either.

Speaker 2: 27:22

So how about that? And now

Speaker 1: 27:26

They have changed their tune even to a greater degree. Jen Saki said that this was one of the biggest, I think that was her yesterday. One of the biggest, you know, air evacuation withdrawals that we've ever done. And they've, they're doing a great job. Got very mad at doosey from Fox because he used the word stranded and she didn't like that very offensive. So now Tom Biden, officials and administration allies have begun, aggressively touting their success of their evacuation efforts. They framed the operation as historic in line with the Berlin airlift declared that they're quote over-performing their own metrics. And they've trumpeted the president, his quote, defying expectations. That's true. He is defining our expectations. Uh, that is true. Yeah. I mean, I thought he was going to be terrible, but I mean, wow. Even worse than I thought my expectations have been shattered. It startling 180 from a defensive crouch Biden and seem occupied just a few days ago. One that reflects the sense of combativeness that has emerged in the west wing as they sort through the first major sustained crisis. And while it sparked accusations that the president team is trying to divert attention away, bind defenders stress. Now for at least he deserves to Crow, a buoyed by evacuation numbers, aids and allies have gone from feeling beleaguered to galvanized, taken into social media in the airwaves to let out their grievances about the press coverage that they'd been harboring privately since the crisis began. And to make the case that the white house as accomplishments should get more credit and attention. They've noted the evacuation figures exceed the estimates. The administration put out. We have a quote here from Chris Murphy, a Senator from Connecticut says, in fact, it didn't take two weeks to evacuate 50,000. It took 10 days, said a lots of work still to do, but might be time for a bit of a reassessment by the media, this operation given the

Speaker 2: 29:13

Actual results. So he's like, Hey, that's great. And we know that we know that the numbers were were, were good there.

Speaker 1: 29:20

And we think that they're good. We don't know because we don't know what the total number of Americans are. So it's 50,000 Afghanis and there's 40,000 Americans left over. They're not good. And that's what the problem has been. So, uh, he's not happy about it. It says among those most aggressive to reshape the press coverage has been the white house chief of staff. Ron, Klain probably don't hear much. You may not have heard much of this guy. This is who he is. He's on Twitter basically all day. Not really doing much chief of staffing because he's, re-tweeting everything all day long. He retweeted Murphy's comment as well as MSNBC host Lawrence. O'Donnell calling it quote the best run evacuation from a war America

Speaker 2: 29:55

Lost just giving themselves

Speaker 1: 29:58

A plus grades. And Ron Klain spotlighted the lesser known figures to re tweeting a retired IBM executive who compared the current mission to the Berlin airlift post-World war II era operation. One of the largest humanitarian aid missions in history. So yeah, the, uh, the catastrophe that you cause that you have to respond and evacuate people from is bigger than one of the largest humanitarian aid missions in history. So that's good. So you caused that that's well done. I guess that's a title. Wow. All right. So that's the byte administration. What do you have to say about all this? Let's check in with the questions over from watching the watchers.locals.com and see who's up first in the house, want to know says, what do you think of Rob? Not answering my question on the Arizona audit, being delayed because of COVID someone got sick. I'm surprised it didn't get delayed because of global warming. I did. I did see that the, the Arizona audit, I think they all got COVID right. All of the auditors conveniently got COVID we'll see if anything comes out. Right. I was saying August 31st was the deadline, but they, this is the thing with these audits and a lot of these investigations, it's always this tick, tick, tick, tock, drip, drip, drip stuff. All right. So Nadler is the hut. Oh, Nadler the hut. Yeah. That's an appropriate name for Jerry Nadler says, is there any legal recourse for the families of the Americans that sleepy abandoned in Afghanistan?

Speaker 2: 31:16

And, uh, I don't, I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what the answer is to that. I mean, I don't, I don't think so. I mean, yes, yes.

Speaker 1: 31:25

So first of all, you can Sue everybody for anything, right? You can Sue, there's always a claim. There's always legal recourse. There's always a cause of action. You can always file a lawsuit. They can always go. And Sue,

Speaker 2: 31:35

Who were they going to Sue the justice department, the DOD Lloyd, Austin, Joe Biden, you know, what are they going to do? What are the courts going to do?

Speaker 1: 31:43

They're just going to say, no, these people signed up for it. They knew they assumed the risk to some degree. And, uh, this is, you know, one of the casualties.

Speaker 2: 31:52

There's not going to be any recourse. Granted

Speaker 1: 31:55

We have, Sergeant Bob says, I think we also have a moral responsibility to the Afghanistan. People who literally put their lives on the line to help the USA, not helping them is just throwing them to the wolves. History is a great teacher, Biden and Harris too ignorant to learn from the Saigon debacle. Good to see the media is finally calling them out. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It is weird to see the media suddenly sort of changing gears and going after them. But I think it's one of those things that's just too hard to, to not cover. So we'll see if that continues. Dog whistle says the Taliban will know exactly how many us citizens or left behind they. Sure. Well, I guess maybe the administration can ask them since they're buddies now want to know, says state said that they'd been telling them to leave and register for months. Acted like it was the American's fault state. Doesn't track citizens open up additional phone banks. They need to know if want to leave. If you think this is acceptable. No, I don't to blame the people that, that you're obligated to. I think that's not appropriate. We have former Elio says maybe a little off topic on the vaccine. Okay. I'm gonna save that one. Save that one. Let me open up another form. We'll get back to that. But when they are out of order, I just have to take me a quick second. All right. So moving on, we've got Nalla the hut says, according to[inaudible] white house source, you'll buy an influence sleepy to stick with the August 31st deadline abandoning any Americans that couldn't get to the airport should be ashamed of herself. Wouldn't surprise me if she's really running the show because we know Joe Biden. Isn't who else could it be? We have Jeremy Matree to says, Rob, they set the deadline to evacuate Americans to indefinitely. Biden can extend the deadline because anything plus infinity is still infinity Biden clearly knows this Biden's living in his own little world. I think so. You're right. Some of those interesting dynamics about infinity on infinity seem appropriate. Good to see you. Jeremy news now says, did you catch their numbers? They released of Americans still there something like 500 on their own to get out. We have 2,500 Americans left. They said 1000. We know we are planning on getting out. We have talked to 500 Americans, told them what to do. So that means you have another 1000 that don't want to evacuate or have already evacuated. So because they told 500 Americans what to do. They no longer count. That's from news now, Wyoming. Yeah. I mean, look, I think everybody's just throwing numbers in the air at this point, who really knows, you know, a thousand sounds, you know, what they really don't want is to leave more Americans over there than died on nine 11. So as long as they can keep it under that number, I think they're going to mark that off as a win, as disgusting as that is, Davis says, well, captain unity finally fulfilled his campaign promise. I just don't think he intended for the unity to come in the form of bipartisan anger at his foreign policy. Probably not kind of a miscalculation there wants to know, says polo. She should take Congress should take Pelosi's million at 6 trillion and clean up this site. This whole mess. Only thing Pelosi will listen to is money that's from wanting to know. Greg Harris says, I wonder how many of those stranded in Afghanistan will be reported as COVID desk. Good question. Why is there not a public bulletin board online where people can list missing family members in Afghanistan? It's a good question. I think Greg probably there's a big security concern with some of that. You know, if you are in a situation where you're making all of that public knowledge, you know, post posting names and, and uh, photographs of people, then the Taliban could get that and just go find those people, which I think is a little bit of a concern, which is why a lot of this stuff is being done under the radar, right? People are communicating through back channels to try to get out of there. Uh, let's see. I want to know, wants to know if we should have dropped them, um, mother of all bombs on the Taliban. I don't know, but that may be something Trump would have done. So Viking is here, says, turned around on August 24th, given hope and a wish. However, probably just to be left in cobbled, disgusting to give them hope. If they're not going to be evacuated again, the push polling must've indicated that emotion is what Americans want to see from the spokesman, fake cracking voices and dry tears. Yeah. The whole thing is just, uh, uh, uh, scripted, really bad movie. These people are all actors and they're not any good at it. Bug says, yeah, the Russians have had a lot with the Taliban claiming that it's trying to convince the Taliban not to go back to its old ways for its part. The Taliban had been very keen to reach out to Russia, made a bunch of promises on how it will become a responsible government who knows whether it will keep them, but Russia has leveraged and its dealings with the Taliban. The U S could ask the Russians to play a mediating role in facilitating a clean U S exit. Russia would probably help too, as a clean us exit is in its interest, but it really does not want to an unstable Afghanistan with a bunch of refugees and terrorists flooding across its borders. Well, the U S asked the Russians for help. I doubt it. What would be much worse for the U S government than having to go cap hand into cap in hand to the Russians and Iran hostage crisis situation? I don't think these people have thought things through. That's a great comment there. Leafy bug, really nice comment. I really like how you sort of gained that out and played out a couple of different roles. And it's a good idea, right? A lot of people are trying to brainstorm alternative options here, right? And you had certain people like Mitch McConnell come out and say, well, just ignore the deadline. Just keep people there. If they start executing American hostages, which is what would happen then. So be it right. Then the U S has to go back in full force and take care of business, which would reopen the Afghanistan war, which a lot of people don't want to do. There's also conversations about Afghanistan, rebels sort of hold overs from the government who didn't hop on airplanes and flee the country or join the Taliban that are in a different part of the country. And you go and support them and sort of build a counter force to the Taliban to balance that out a little bit so that they at least know that there's somebody who's threatening their, their, their stranglehold work with other countries work with NATO allies, but they don't want to work with the U S because we just sort of abandoned them to a large degree and are not negotiating with them. Either Joe, they wanted to extend the deadline. Joe said no. So, uh, there's a lot to continue to play out. I think that it's probably going to be a mess. Any which way it goes. I don't think that it's salvageable at this point because it was such a blender on the front end. It's ed says, Hey Rob, imagine if BP said we are doing an amazing job cleaning up this oil spill, this is a historic moment. We are very proud considering they caused the problem. What exactly are they proud of? Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, our negligence caused this oil leak and it's flooding the entire ocean. Like more, more gallons of ocean of oil are leaking out than ever is a bad way to frame it. That's a glass half full there, ed. But if the glass is, that's a glass half empty, but if the glass is half full and they're cleaning up while they've cleaned up more gallons of oil than anybody ever before, that's, that's, that's heroic. Amazing.

Speaker 2: 38:35

Well done. Wow.

Speaker 1: 38:37

Yeah. So it's sort of like that, which is why it's such a joke. Ghost gunner says, is it just me? Or does this administration get more? Or Willie in everyday, goalposts are constantly being changed. The propaganda machine is hard at work, trying to brainwash us and to believe that they are doing a good job, at least we have the world record for the largest airlift or whatever. That's from Winston ghost gunner. Winston is here. Yeah. There we'll see. I mean, apparently the American people aren't appreciative of their tremendous efforts. We have three girlies is here, says a measure and molten looked at each other and said, this is BS. They had to hold my beer moment. They knew what they were doing and did it effectively. What is the phrase, quote, easier to ask forgiveness than to get permission. There are a lot of veterans that are competing. I'm sorry, chomping at the bit to get these people out. And all these vets who are senators and representatives are screaming, no matter what side of the aisle they're on. It makes me wonder how many private companies with former seals and special ops like Blackwater will have to go in and clean up the mess. I saw a headline on Twitter. There was something trending about Blackwater or something like they're offering, uh, evacuations out, I think at like$6,500 ahead, which doesn't sound that expensive actually, uh, when the state department was offering, I think them

Speaker 2: 39:49

For 2000 Blackwater,

Speaker 1: 39:51

A private charter jet, they'll probably come in and extract you for$6,500. Yeah. That sounds pretty reasonable. But uh, but yeah, I mean look, private corporations, private businesses, private enterprise is going to just crush the U S government and all governments in virtually everything in the, in the very near future. We're transitioning away from, uh, uh, competent nation states into a new generation of incompetent nation states. And people are going to pick up the slack.

Speaker 2: 40:19

That's why Elan can go up

Speaker 1: 40:21

Into space, but NASA has a difficult time and it's in the list goes on. All right. So we've got tos forever says doesn't this lack of evacuation

Speaker 2: 40:29

Seemed like as the actual

Speaker 1: 40:31

Plan to allow terrorists to celebrate nine 11 with another massacre from tos forever. I'm sure that they will. I'm sure that they're going to have a big propaganda procession there in Kabul to really rub everybody's facing it news. Now Wyoming says, what about the white house getting mad about calling American

Speaker 2: 40:47

Stranded? Is this similar to what your definition

Speaker 1: 40:49

Of is, is stranded does not mean you can get it, maybe get in maybe. Yeah, no it doesn't. But Jen was offended that doosey use that word said we're trying really hard. The fact that there are actually Americans

Speaker 2: 41:04

Stranded, we just can't get them. So use a more polite word.

Speaker 1: 41:11

Bug says, I almost feel sorry for Jen Saki. Sure. She's a woke idiot with a severe case of TDS and is terrible at her job, but she also has the most difficult job in the world. Imagine having to put on a good face on the Biden regime day in and day out, it would be a, um, a difficult job for most people because most people have a moral compass,

Speaker 2: 41:30

You know, so to go out there and say,

Speaker 1: 41:34

We're not stranding everybody when your administration is exactly stranding people. Well, you've got to have a special type of a type of core or lack thereof to do that job. Now, I know what people would say was she's just spokesman. She's just the job. It's just her job to do it. But a lot of people are dying and she's out there. Peddling lies. John Dolores says, when the midterms come around, the media will develop amnesia and build the byte. Administration back up. Journalists are party people. And most of them are Democrats. I was thinking that also John LR, but I kind of think they want common law in there. And I was suspicious that they were going to do that. Anyways, that Joe Biden was always going to get the boot. I was thinking it would be after the midterms because that's a good excuse. You can blame Joe Biden on the, on the, the red wave that comes through and, and you know, 13 months from now, he's going to be a lot more mentally, uh, declined than he is even currently. And so at that point, you say, wow, the party needs a change in direction. Joe Biden needs to go. Then that gives Camila two years to prime up to run again for the 20, 24 election. And we'll see how that goes, but not good for them. DG McBride says regarding Biden's performance, this is a serious question. Would you ride in a car if Biden was driving, ask yourself folks, would you ride in a car? Biden was driving the car. The obvious answer is no. Yet. Here we are with him at the helm. Would you take, if you ask Biden to go get your medication and bring you back a pill, would you take that pill? I don't know. I thought I certainly wouldn't, but uh, but I didn't vote for the man. So a lot of people would, I guess Jay, he says I'm 42. This is the biggest humanitarian failure in my lifetime. How the white house can claim victory and complain about the press coverage after their Trump obsession is insane. They are too narcissistic and arrogant to ever accept blame. It's disgusting. You're right, Jay Heath, it feels like they're, they're either crazy or they're just really, really malicious. You know, they're, they're saying this they're two different people from the same executive branch. You're saying different things on different almost the same day. RDB five says the failed evacuation is a nice, shiny object to take the attention off the billions of dollars of weapons illegally transferred to the Taliban. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot. Look, there's a lot of well-armed Taliban people now. So all the gun control people out there, all the Democrats now, the U S government, the Biden administration, just armed a lot of people with guns. A lot of Taliban people with American guns. Hm. Kamala Harris is here, says, Hey everyone, I'm in Vietnam. And I'm telling them the U S is back. CACO cackle, cackle, cackle. They are so happy to hear this carefully crafted macro message. I'm doing a fantastic job. Definitely ready to take over CACO CAC. Okay. Okay. I could, you know, I need to make a, uh, I know what I'm going to do. I know what I'm going to do. We're going to, we're going to, should I bring the Kamala cackle on the show? I don't know. I forgot to show you. I have this little thing that I, that I, I added to the, uh, to the stream. See that look, I can press buttons and stuff will come up a subscribe button. See that I pressed the button. I can also do a siren now. So let me, let me get this one, going, put that one up there. Look at that. So I can, uh, have some sound effects on the show. Now it can be like that morning radio drive into work where you are. I'm listening to the DJs, you know, making the, uh, the belts and the, uh, excrement sounds. We're not going to do that. I'm just kidding. But what I could do is I could pull up a Camila cackle like that and I could do something like this. So, so I was playing with that earlier today. Anyways, having fun with some of the live stream stuff, but yeah, Kamala's here cackling away. That's a lot of fun. Let's see what else we've got. Dog whistle says the state department sent on visa forms without name and addresses to U S citizens and SIVs without identification. These people forwarded it. So almost everyone had papers showing up at the airport state department. Couldn't tell who was legit. So that's really good. That's really competent. Good leadership there. Outstanding. Greg Harris says, was there a COVID vaccine in Afghanistan for the troops and the general public? Was it left behind? Yeah, maybe. I mean, look between the vaccines and the mask mandates. I just I'm worried about the Taliban. They don't seem to be following the CDC guidelines in their, in their seizure of a country. So we should probably, before we leave, we should probably recommend lockdowns forum news. Now Wyoming says not just about the evacuation, but have you ever seen a president's advisors directly contradict everything he ever says as much as now? No, I haven't. He can say the sky is orange in the evening. They're going to tell you the exact shade. They say literally different things on different. Sometimes on the same day, Joe Biden gave that speech. And that same day they were talking about different things. Wild. All right, we've got another one. Three girlie says Blackwater charging. 6,500 is very cheap. There are more than enough benevolent donors out there would be happy to fund these trips. I could see a go fund me page galore to get these people out. Yeah, I think that was the number that I saw. Let me see if it's still trending on Twitter here. No, I don't see it. Yeah, that was Blackwater. They were, there was a, there was a 6,500 per seat. You can see this from the recount charter jet. Don't think anybody would support the efforts to profit off of people's act. Oh my goodness. This is Jen Saki. I don't think human. Listen. Let's listen to this 11.

Speaker 6: 47:09

I don't think any human being, uh, who has a heart and soul would support, uh, efforts to profit off of people's agony and pain as they're trying to depart a country and fearing for their lives. I don't think any human.

Speaker 1: 47:21

Okay. So that's gen Saki. Now that's interesting because, uh, for the last 20 years, huge chunks of the U S apparatus were making a lot of profit off of this Afghanistan war. So, uh, okay. Well I guess, I guess she's at least consistent there because the byte administration is ending that, so, alright. There is some consistency there I'll have to give her credit for that. Let's see. We've got Kareem says, could Kamala not serve a third term if she comes in after the 20, 22 midterm elections, could that be another reason for her to wait until then? You know, that's a good question. I don't know how that works. I think that,

Speaker 7: 47:55

Do we have precedent for that? I don't know

Speaker 1: 47:57

The answer to that, Kareem. I don't want to speculate on that, but that's a great question. I should know the answer to that and I don't. All right. Well, want to know, says I live in Oregon. So I think that is in the next segment. That's the vaccine segment. Last one here, before we jump into the super chats is from Brad. Thorn says, but my full support for the Camila cackle could bite. All right. Yeah. This is my full support for the Camila cackle. That's from Brad Foran. Okay. All right. I'll I'll, I'll try to get that. Cause that'll be a fun one to throw in there. If you noticed I had the siren. Okay. It's kind of fun. I had the mother of God statement from super troopers. It was a police thing, right. So yeah, we can have some fun with that and see where that goes. Last one here is from miss. Danny said just a comment I read today that China and Russia are worried over any Islamic crisis and their borders. They met with the Taliban speaker regarding this issue. Yeah. Look, if they have a strong Taliban and they start taking over, uh, diff extending themselves into different countries, they're going to have their own problems. And they're going to have to deal with that taker. What's SyFy with a super chat over on YouTube said maybe off topic, because I don't see it in your list, but did you see the Supreme court decision regarding the border appeal? They upheld the judge ruling. I did see the headline. I didn't read into it. I know it was just a short headline or as a short opinion that, uh, that I didn't spend much time on, but I did see it. I am probably going to get to that tomorrow. There is so much stuff to talk about. It's really hard to gather it all into one show, all the audit stuff, all of the Supreme court stuff, the border stuff. I know Ron DeSantis is duking it out with Disney. There's a lot to talk about. We're just, we're we're, we're trying to get to it, but it's a good question. And we'll see, we'll see if, uh, the byte administration follows that order. The Supreme court said something, but so what, who cares? They don't care about the Supreme court. They didn't care when they said that the eviction moratorium was unconstitutional. They said, so what it's extended anyways, thanks for your opinion, Supreme court, but we're just going to do what we want to do. So if the Supreme court said that the border has to go back to the remain in Mexico policy, that Donald Trump instituted what's Biden going to say, well, thanks. Thanks for your opinion. Avalon acre says we already know the us doesn't have a problem leaving behind belongings. Some sliders belong to the military, ask anyone that has been court marshaled for injury, belong to the military. That's from Avalon acres. Thank you for that super chat there. Avalon. Uh, yeah, so we've got a lot of, uh, issues continuing out of Afghanistan. They're going to continue indefinitely. We're going to continue to cover it. Thank you for all of those tremendous questions from watching the Watchers, that locals.com and the great super chats. Thank you.[inaudible] and Avalon acres really do appreciate it. All right. So next segment, we're going to jump into some COVID stuff. COVID mandates vaccine mandates mask mandates insurance premium raises all because people don't want to get vaccinated all because the Corona virus just persists on has nothing to do with egomaniacs and tyrannical, little dictators who want to control every facet of your life. No, it's about the Delta variant. Okay. So we're going to go through and experiment with a couple and take a look, poke around with a couple of different areas in the country where they are slowly tightening the grip around our necks. First off Delta airlines, they're going to be now charging their employees$200 a month to cover higher COVID costs if they are not vaccinated. So the CEO, this guy over here who looks like a COVID hyper ventilator, certainly somebody who just kind of hysterical over everything. His name is ed Bastian, CEO of Delta said on Wednesday that they're going to face a$200 monthly increase in their health insurance premiums, which for many people that might be, you know, a hundred percent cost. I don't know, uh, of what their total costs are. If they aren't vaccinated against. COVID-19 said that these are, these are steep costs to cover employees who were hospitalized with the virus. Unvaccinated employees are going to face other restrictions, including indoor masking effective immediately weekly COVID tests announced this policy for all airline employees, all of them measure as the latest attempt by U S corporation to do it. Delta self-insured its employees stands out and its plans to raise premiums for un-vaccinated workers to cover the higher costs. So this guy, age 64 lives in New York, born, born in New York, wherever. So, uh, he's the CEO. That's what he's doing. So we've sort of talked about this a lot. A lot of industries are trending this direction. We heard from a firefighter yesterday from the Los Angeles fire department who said, well, basically I've been here for 31 years. I'm a veteran, I'm a captain. And like other chiefs and other captains throughout this country, I don't want to get the job. And so if you mandate it, I have no choice, but to resign. And so we're, we're going to see if this happens. I've been saying for some time on this channel, that there is a slow resorting. People are self-selecting. It's like when you mix water and oil together and you shake it up, things get kind of mixed up and then it slowly separates that's happening right now in this country in super slow motion. People are drawing lines in the sand about what they're going to tolerate and what they're not going to tolerate. So we'll see what this does to those employment numbers. It may not change anything or it may change a lot. We'll see. So that is happening. It's also happening in fire departments in different localities. This is about the vaccine mandate. We have another psycho person whose name is governor Kate brown over from Oregon. And she posted this on Twitter today, says, uh, today we have a thousand COVID COVID patients in our hospitals. I'm continuing to take actions to protect Oregonians and to save their lives. So that's good. So she's a, like a godlike figure. She's saving lives good for her effective on 8 27, masks are now going to be required in public outdoor settings where physical distancing is not possible, regardless of vaccination status. So it's like insane on like multiple different levels. Number one, if you're vaccinated, well then what are you still wearing a mask for in the first place? Uh, okay, so that's fine if you want to do that. So your Vaxxed and unboxed mast up regardless, and this is not even indoors. This is outdoors. So if you want to go to the Oregon beach, if you want to go to the Oregon city fair or state fair or whatever they have, you got to put a mask on. If you want to go sit outside and have a picnic at a park or go on a playground, you're massed up in sunshine, getting exercise and fresh air where one might suspect you shouldn't be wearing a mask, but this savior of the Oregonians, the person who's going to protect you and save lives is now going to make you wear a mask everywhere you go. So as soon as you step outside of the house, and if you're in close proximity with anybody else, mask your face up, she's very heroic woman. Very proud of her. Let's see what else we've got here. This is what she had to say about this. Listen, can you believe this? Listen to this lady.

Speaker 8: 54:46

That's why I'm continuing to take actions to protect Oregonians and save lives. Today. I'm announcing that effective Friday, August 27th, mass will be required in all public outdoor settings or physical distancing is not possible. Regardless of vaccination status mass have proven to be effective at reducing transmission and are a necessary measure right now, even in some outdoor settings to help us fight COVID and to protect one another. In addition, the Oregon health authority strongly recommends masking and outdoor gatherings at private residences, where people from different households do not maintain physical distance. This virus knows no boundaries and community spread can turn a small gathering into an outbreak.

Speaker 1: 55:39

Oh, these people are the worst. The worst. Did you hear her? I'm taking steps to save lives in Oregon. Only I can do it. And I'm going to act now. I know it's hard. I know you, Oregon peasants don't understand this difficult decision that I have to make as your leader, as your savior. I'm making the decision to save your lives. So when you go out to the playground with your kids, put a mask on, otherwise you might drop dead of COVID. Okay. That is the Oregon, uh, governor look at this woman, look at the face. She's just so she has so much disdain for, for all, all of you in Oregon, you can just see it on her face. Doesn't even want to look at you. How could you just not even trust what she has to say? Okay. So that's an Oregon. Now something must be going on in the Northwest part of the country because we have another psycho, uh, story. Washington school is blazed blasted for masking student athletes. I'm sorry, making student athletes wear ankle monitors so that they can be alerted if another player test positive for COVID. Okay. Now I'm a criminal defense attorney. We're familiar with ankle monitors. They typically put them on people charged with serious felonies to make sure they don't flee the country. And to make sure they don't go commit additional crimes or go engage in nefarious activities. But now a high school in Washington is putting them on student athletes. So this is called Eatonville high school receive backlash effort, implementing a measure, which student athletes have to wear ankle monitors, parents and social media said that these are used for offenders under house arrest there for criminals, not for children while both vaccinated and unvaccinated students and coaches are required to wear the monitor. Only unvaccinated individuals are required to quarantine. So they are literally branding their students in Eatonville. This school has refused that they are using trackers on students called the devices, proximity monitors instead. So that's cool. The monitor is only used during practice and then left at the school. All right, so they don't take it home. This is what it looks like. This is the proximity tracer says here in the time of COVID, how will you maintain safe working distances? So it looks like it's a little, almost like an apple watch looking device, meet our social distancing and tracing solution. Isn't this nice active feedback, visual and audible alarms, passive collection of worker interactions. The main device of the proximity trays called the trace tag. It's worn on the body or a fixed to a hard hat for proximity detection and contact tracing together. We're going to keep people safer by maintaining social distances. So it's not like a shock you, if you get too close to somebody, it says the system overview workers will be issued a trace tag to be a fixed to the front of the hard hat or on the body gateways for collecting close contact worker interactions are gonna be placed at exits and high traffic areas. Optional features real-time progression of audible visual alerts when workers are in close proximity. So it will actually alert you when you're getting too close to somebody else. Oh, what a joke? Close proximity interactions, including duration are recorded on the trace tag until it gains connectivity to the gateways, and then it uploads it to the cloud. So it just sort of monitors who you're bumping into. And then everything gets uploaded. Gateways are going to log attendance in a real-time general visibility of who was present at the site. They are literally tagging you. So almost like, you know, when you see the nature shows and they go out there and they're like, let's go get those a Buffalo. And they get the Buffalo and they take the Buffalo down, cowboy lasso is that up? All right. And then they go and they staple the thing to the ear and it's like, okay, that is Buffalo 37. Got it. And now we can track Buffalo 37 all over the place. That's you now that's us. That's us. That's us. That's our kids in high school, Eatonville high school. And so this is now rolling around everywhere, and it may not come in the form of something that you have to attach, but there's already apps for your phones. Of course, you know, your vaccine passport is now something that in many places in this country, San Francisco, New York city, to be specific soon to be many other places, you got to actually show them. And you might have the government officials, the little hall monitors out at your restaurants who are now scanning your barcode so that they can also just make sure, Hey, make sure that you're following rules. So we've got a lot of these Looney tunes out there trying to just, I guess, see, just kind of prying to everything that you're doing, including in high schools with kids. And so what, how did this happen? How do you have a high school that just says, we're just going to start tagging your children. Nobody had a problem with that. Well, they kind of did Eatonville yesterday, sent out this email or this the letter set us skews. Sorry about that. Eatonville families. We have received questions about the proximity monitors that some of our students have been tagged with that we've been stapling to their ankles. They say, oh, well, listen. Our core values of curiosity, excellence, responsibility, all of that are meant. We have good intentions. We want to create positive relationships. They tell us where this all started. We received grant funding known as E S S E R three. That specifically included provisions to support higher risk athletic programs. We'll use some of those funds to pay for the proximity monitors, where you're using this monitors for high contact and moderate indoor contact sports. The monitors are fo both for staff and coaches, regardless of whether they're vaccinated or not. They want to tightly determine who might need to quarantine. Same technology used by professional athletics. NFL is using it as well. The system prevents taking students out of school and athletics unnecessarily. It's a top priority for families and staff staff. The school year is going to bring numerous changes and the situations are going to be dynamic. So they got a grant known as ESS E R three. That specifically included provisions for athletic pro proximity sensors. Huh? Wonder where that funding came from. I wonder who paid for that? I wonder what their interests are. Having had a chance to take a look at that, but would it be a good research project? We have a more troubling news. Now the mandates continue to be mandated all around the country. We just heard that Oregon is now having mass mandates. We also have heard that, uh, different states and different cities have different vaccine mandates different passports. In fact that you can't even engage in society unless you are vaccinated. Well, now that is spreading beyond just those localities. It's also going into the federal government, also going into the U S military. The Pentagon is now ordering troops to get their vaccines ASAP. This was a sort of speculation in many parts of the country. But now since the FDA allegedly approved a Pfizer vaccine, a lot of conversation happening about, about that whole thing. We're not going to talk about it, but here, what you see is since the FDA has officially said that the vaccines have full approval, the military turned around and said, boom, that's exactly what we needed. Now it's mandatory. Military troops must immediately begin to get the COVID vaccine said, defense secretary, Lloyd, Austin. He said in a memo on Wednesday, we're going to read through it more than 800,000 service members have yet to get their shots. According to Pentagon data it's a lot of people wonder why they don't want to get it. Now that the Pfizer vaccine has received full approval from the FDA. DOD is adding it to its list. Austin memo does not dictate a specific timeline for completing the vaccines, but it says that they have to report regularly on their progress. A senior defense official said that Austin has made it clear. He expects them to move quickly. This will be completed in weeks, not months. So, uh, man, wow, uh, Lloyd Austin Weeks, not months, very aggressive. He's coming out with a lot of force. He's making a stand he's leading with some gravitas. Wow. Would have been useful if some of that showed up in Afghanistan, but not much there. Uh, now here is Lloyd Austin. You may remember him, uh, kind of hard to remember what he looks like here. He has two masks on and a face shield. So this is America's bravest, finest, you know, really, really tough, strong military men. Uh, this is what he, this is what he's focused on apparently. So, uh, this memo came out from his office, August 24th, memorandum from senior Pentagon leadership defense agency, DOD field activities. Uh, he says to defend this nation, we need a healthy and ready force. You see that healthy. So he, he supports health with two masks and a face shield after careful consideration with experts, blah, blah, blah. I've determined, it's necessary. I have determined it's necessary. Not a doctor, not anybody. Uh, just a, uh, double mask or face shield or military guy. Mandatory vaccinations are familiar to all of our service members and their mission critical our administration of safe, blah, blah, blah, urgency, professionalism. I direct all secretaries of military departments to immediately begin full vaccination of all members of the armed forces under DOD authority on active duty or in the ready reserve, including the national guard who were not fully vaccinated. I therefore direct begin full vaccination service members are considered fully vaccinated two weeks after completing the second dose. Those with previous infections are not considered fully vaccinated, which is curious because there's a lot of data out there that has some interesting questions about whether the vaccine or whether the natural immunity that one gains after getting COVID, which one of those is superior don't know. But Lloyd Austin has picked his decision. He's made his decision. He said the vaccine is superior, mandatory vaccines against COVID-19 are only going to be used. We're only used COVID vaccines that receive full licensure from the FDA service members who are actively participating in trials are exempted. Mandatory. Vaccines will be implemented according to this policy. And we now know the secretary should impose ambitious timelines for the implementation. Military departments are going to report regularly and it's going to save lives. Thank you, Lloyd Austin. Uh, you see him here with his, uh, two face to face masks and his, uh, face shield. So happening in the military might even be coming down to lawyers, friend, Joe. Nierman good logic over here on YouTube posted this on Twitter, said I'm at the union workers. Anti-vaccination mandate rally in New York city. I met some folks who work in the unified court system. An order just emailed to all staff saying all judges, all judicial workers must be vaccinated by 9 27. See it here. This is what the letter looks like. The mandatory vaccine program builds upon our mandatory testing. Gonna take place into effect September 27. So it's coming to the courts. Now come into lawyers. It's going to be fun. We'll see what happens. All right. Let's take a look@somequestionsoverfromwatchingthewatchersdotlocals.com. See what you have to say about all this. We have a couple in the house. I forgot we skipped over that one. This is from a former Leo, former Elio. Okay. So he submitted this question. Thank you for being here former Leo. I want to introduce you to Sergeant Bob. Who's a regular on the show says that he's a new member and this is his first comment. Let's see what we've got here. This is from former. Leo says maybe a little off topic on the vaccine mandates, but I was a police officer in the mid 1970s. My department changed how the patient,

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The scale was set. The board of supervisors, quote,

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Dated the new pay scale and wouldn't recognize us for discussion. The next morning, 900 sworn patrol officers walked off the job and went on strike. The mayor, stepped off a plane and said that he would quote, fire us all good luck and firing everybody in patrol and letting the administrators work. The streets, the strike lasted three days. City came back and offered to negotiate rather than dictate paint. We got back pain, no reprisals. I guess that moral of the story is how firmly do you believe in your position? They can't fire everybody

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And still have a country. New member.

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First comment, outstanding. First comment there. Former Leo, thank you for being here. It's a great comment. And I couldn't agree with you more, right? A lot of these people are virtue, signaling, egomaniac politicians, that's all. And they don't really

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Recognize the catastrophe and the long term consequences

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Of these decisions we heard on yesterday. Show a firefighter 31 years, captain from Los Angeles fire department.

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It's gone. He's just going to,

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I doesn't know what to do. If Garcetti signs that into law, he's got a decision that he has to make. It's about freedom versus mandates.

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And he's going to make that

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Decision. Nurses are doing it. Doctors are doing it. Firefighters are doing it. Police officers are doing it. Military members are going to do it. Attorneys are going to do it. People, the people who are needed to make this country run

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Are not going to comply with these dictates. What's going to happen to the country

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And see where it goes. Thank you for being here former LEL thing. I'm glad I saved that question. Great question. Thanks for dropping that in here. Let's see, we got some other questions. Uh, that was from, that was from three girlies we had, uh, but we're going to move into the next segment. We got justice obsess as how do we get the medical status added as a protected class? There are companies like bank of America and their big work centers, literally segregating vaccinated. And non-vaccinated, they also have to wear a mask and test daily. I think many other large companies will follow suit. I think they will. For the time being, you know, a lot of this stuff I think is sort of this, this version of a sort of mass delusion it's called. I just read an article about this.

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It's called socio genic disease. Hm.

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Virtual socio genic disease. It's the idea. I think that's what, what the phrase is called. It's the idea

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That sort of, you know, you can,

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You can sort of get sick over the internet, virtual socio genic disease. Let's see what we've got here. Yeah. It's not Tourette's. This came over from academic.uber.com. So stop that. It's not Tourette's but a new type of mask, socio genic illness illness, we were part of the, excuse me, we report the first outbreak of a new type of mass socio genic illness that in contrast to all previously reported episodes is spread solely via social media. They call it mass social media, induced illness, MSM in Germany, it's indicated by there's a creator in Germany, a YouTube creator that has weird Tourette like syndromes.

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And then all the people that watch him

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Start doing the same thing, the same mannerisms, you know? And so I think there's a lot of truth to this. The idea that

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People sort of, uh,

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You know, interpret what they see over the internet and they make them

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Their own world, what they see.

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And so if every day they watch CNN in 2020 and every day it's a death scoreboard every day. They think that is reality. It is their reality because that's the only thing that they know. And so they start to all act in uniformity because they've all been watching the same show. So they're all going the same direction. They're all going the same rate weight. And it's something's off there. Cause it's so far disconnected from reality that eventually I think a lot of these people are just going to sort of wake up,

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Go up and go, what are we doing? We go into a restaurant, we got to put a mask on that. We sit down, we take the mask off. Then we eat our food for an hour in a restaurant filled with other people. So we're all I

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Think the same recirculated air. Then we have to go to the bathroom.

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You end up, gotta put the mask back on, go to the bathroom, come back, sit down, take the mask back off. Okay. Then the waiter comes and he's got his mask on. Okay. And vaccines don't matter. And all it's all nonsense. And are we going to continue to do that indefinitely? Okay. Well, if that's

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Case, I think the self sorting continues

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Is going to be a big group of people that just say you can do that stuff. Looney tunes. You can go bubble,

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Wrap your entire house for all I care. I'm not going to hang out with you anymore though. Don't invite me to your wedding, your birthday party. I'm not interested in spending time with you. I'm going to go deal with real people who like to do real things with their lives. So, uh, we'll see where that goes. I, uh, I, I don't know. It sounds like we're all sort of living in, in Looney tunes, a world for the time being Karim, 1 65 says Melissa, Joan Hart was fully vaccinated. Still got, COVID not feeling well. You can still spread the virus if you're vaccinated yet only the unvaccinated pose a threat. Yeah. Yeah. It's a weird, it's a weird thing. And also, apparently your vaccine only works if somebody, if everybody else gets it. Well, I didn't know that either. It's a new thing. Apparently you can get a vaccine, but it doesn't work. Unless I also get one weird. We have a Jerry Nadler says, Rob, do you recommend the morbidly obese Congressman from New York city? Get the vaccine. Well, Jerry Nadler. Yeah. Jerry it's Jerry. Now it's kind of a surprise that, that, that is a human person actually, uh, watched the video of him, uh, yesterday, you know, uh, Jerry Nadler, Jeff might be good. So I could do something like, like Gary Adler, Jeff maybe would be good. Jerry Nadler is, uh, an interesting fellow Nadler's belly was a, was on the show previously. It's ed says, yeah, right. There is no way. Delta unions will allow that. It's the best joke I've heard on the show before I started my trucking company, I work for United. I know what the unions are like. There is no way this will go through without a long vote from all Delta unions, it will not work. You have customer service, union ramp, union pilot, union mechanics, union cabin services, union flight attendant, union. They all have to vote on this. That's from it's ed. So, and th that is funny, right? The unions have been very, very in a precarious position here because they're union members. They don't want to get the vacs, but they're negotiating with all these government entities in these big, uh, these big corporations who do want him to get faxed. And the unions are in this situation where they're going well, we're kind of Democrats. And we always want to do whatever the government kind of wants us to do. They're sort of in that category. And, uh, and now their citizens, their members are saying, well, we don't really want to do that. And they don't know what to do. Tough, tough, tough spot to be in. We'll see what happens with Delta. Thanks for the perspective though, that makes sense. Right? All of the different, uh, industries within the industry have their own organizations that they got to talk to, to get this stuff through. Sergeant Bob says the out of control, Oregon governor and the quote, super majority Dems are the reason we will be coming to Arizona and not Oregon. We had a nice two acre lot picked out in conservative Rosenberg, Oregon trouble is the Dems in Portland, Salem, Eugene. They control the government. Let's keep Arizona free. Get glad to happily retire from Portland police bureau. That is Sergeant Bob Sergeant. Bob's coming out here to Chino valley in Arizona, which is a fun little town out there. A beautiful area. I just drove through there. When I was going up to Seligman the old route 66, that the Disney movie cars was made on a beautiful area. Beautiful part. We're looking forward to having you here, Sergeant Bob, and I think isn't Oregon, the town or the city, the state. Hello that I think Idaho wants to take a portion of Oregon over. There's a, there's like a, a movement for greater Idaho. That's going to take all our wants to take, which I support all of the rural conservative areas of Oregon and California and maybe Washington and sorta just say, let the left coast stay the left coast. The good people of Idaho wants the good people of Oregon to join hands. Something like that would be fun. All right, we got a couple more here. Before we jump into the last segment. Thunder seven says I've been doing some research. The more people push back against the COVID orders, the more tyrannical the government gets. Australia has a very low vacs rate at 24%. Their government is literally locking down an entire city due to one COVID case. Nobody in the U S cares what the CDC, FDA, or 5g have to say. People are doing what they think is best for themselves and their families. People are fighting back all over the world against the Nazis. They've lost. That's thunder seven. Yeah. I think that they are slowly sort of recognizing that they they're having a difficult time maintaining their grasp and their control. And a lot of what we're seeing here is a reaction to that. That's why you're seeing these mandates. They're sort of recognizing that people aren't buying what they're selling anymore. And so they are getting a little bit more aggressive. But when that happens, the harder you squeeze, right? The more stuff is going to slip through your fingers. You're going to squeeze, squeeze, squeeze. Whereas if you just kind of held it on nicely, you'd be able to move that. But when you squeeze, it just slips right through, uh, that's from its ad says, I actually like wearing a mask, keeps those randos from talking to me at the supermarket. But honestly, if Illinois mandates this, I will purposely go out in public without a mask for no other reason than for me to have the opportunity to smile at an officer and say, why don't you and your partner go play hide and go blank. Funny how, as you get older, you find different and pleasures in life than when you were younger. That's from it's ed. Uh, so I'm, I'm sort of, of the same mindset. You know, if there's opportunities to introduce friction into these, what I would consider to be unlawful, overextended, unconstitutional, totally lacking in due process, any of these regulations, these executive orders, these laws that are just mandated by your savior from Oregon, you just introduce a little friction into those things. That's okay. Never encourage breaking the law. If it's a mandate, then it's a mandate, got to follow the laws. But if you have some questions about enforceability or where, where to wear that mask, or if it's always required or any of those things, well, you have a right as an American to probe those boundaries, don't you and the officers can correct you. And if you look, if there are repercussions from you exercising your freedoms, then you deal with that on the backend. As long as you're somebody who can tolerate those consequences and those repercussions and prepare to stand and fight against them. Many of us are wants to know, says the Latino. Mommy's called the governor of Washington and Oregon dogs actually. And you know, the B words, what, that's, why I don't think the Democrats are going to get their vote to see what happens in California. These governors ruin them, the money. They lost all their tip money, selling houses, kids, kids in school. So I think, I think wants to know is saying that California is in a deep duty over there. We got news. Now Wyoming says, why are we still questioning the government mandates? We should be bowing down to our authorities, questioning the government was so 2020 bow down and kiss some feet that's from, uh, that was from who was that from news now.

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I'm sorry. He was not Wyoming. Yeah. You know,

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We're just bad citizens. I guess we have Greg Harris says my COVID observations COVID is real. Vaccines are good. Uh, I'm sorry. Uh, mandates are very, very, very bad. I'm waiting for the government to tell me I can't go outside until I finished my vegetables. He says master silly. They just hide people's emotions. Yeah. So I think those are good observations. Yeah. I think those are pretty, pretty reasonable observations. COVID surreal. Yeah. Vaccines are good. Yeah. Mandates are very, very, very bad. Yeah. I don't know. I think that's just silly. That's pretty, pretty obvious. Uh, uh, pretty, pretty astute framing. Nice and succinct. Good to see you there, Greg. Thanks for that comment. We have it's ed says, Rob, can you break down the FDA approval on a later show? No lawyer. Yeah. So I'm gonna, yes. Uh, I, I will probably do that. It's ad, but not on YouTube because they're, they don't like that stuff. I will probably do this cause I was actually reading through the FDA order and I was reading it and I was saying it was weird and I don't read FDA orders, but I read legal documents a lot and I know how they structure them. And I was reading that and I was gone.

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This is, this is interesting, but

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I don't want to get into it on YouTube because they don't like that. So, all right. We got into Darby says, I'm sorry, but at this point, if you're still listening to the edicts of these psychopathic tyrants, and I do not feel bad for you, this will continue. As long as we, the massive number of people allow it to continue. It's all up to you. There are going to be a lot of people who want this to continue to happen. There were many people during the last set of lockdowns. They're like, this is great. They liked it. They liked to be told what to do. They don't like to think for themselves sad, but it's true. Mama rock says, Viva Barnes has a great explanation of how the approved vacs is not in production yet. So yeah. So we're going to save those for, for other, uh, other platforms. Uh, but yes, go check out. Viva Barnes, law.locals.com. They have some very good content on the vaccine stuff. And Robert Barnes, I think specifically has been talking about filing lawsuits and stuff. So make sure you go check them out. Tos forever says, doesn't it seem like Americans are making themselves tyrannical, Queens and Kings as if no federal Republic constitution exists. Obviously Dr. Queen Oregon has not read the studies and the lack of supportive data, Washington state. First they call humanity a herd. Now a state is teaching our to be enslaved. Might it be because they kept losing their phones? Doesn't the secretary of defense seem to be wearing a Boca and to face people needed two masks, right? Ooh. That's an interesting comment to face. People need two masks. Ooh. Yeah, I like that three girly says, you know, the microchips and animals were creepy when they came out, then they stuck GPS trackers on kids risks for these insane helicopter parents. So now it's this, how long before it's going to be implanted in each one of these kids' bodies, whatever happened to personal privacy, remember that China and Russia have their capability of hacking these systems and taking this data as a parent, I would tell them to take their tag and shove it. Weird question, but wouldn't tagging these kids be against the fourth amendment after all it is the government that is requiring these kids to wear these tags. Yeah, it's a good question. I thought about that to sort of, uh, an unreasonable search would be the argument that they are fixing something to the kids that is, uh, allowing them to see who they talk with and where they go and what they do and all of those different things. But then a parent might have some problems with, I think that what you might see come out of the courts is the courts will look at the situation and say, yeah, but we didn't send that home. This was only taking place in the school. We have a right to know where the kids are at school. Kids have a lower expectation of privacy, which is sort of the standard that we talk about. When we do fourth amendment analysis, do you have a reasonable expectation to privacy? If you do, and it's reasonable like you have in your home, uh, thankfully still then you are protected there, but that expectation of privacy it's, it's not as strong in your car and less strong at school because at school you're sort of giving your kids over to the custody of the government in a sick way. But, uh, so I'm not sure that the parents would have much recourse there. Uh, and it would probably be hard to sort of prove damages as well, other than a, uh, you know, nominal invasion of privacy damages, but were the kids harmed? What were they, what would they sort of when if they were successful in their suit, is it worth bringing a lawsuit? Some of those are the practical, boring things as to why people don't Sue. So Viking says Oregon's governor, once again is stunning and brave with her decisions, neutering, Portland, police protection and virtue signaling with her mask mania gross. She's just terrible. Terrible. I, I looked at her today and I was just, this is awful. All right, Sergeant Bob says, great comment for former Leo. Thank you brother. We're bringing people together on the show. Police officers. I'm a criminal defense lawyer. Uh, oh, what's happening right now. I love, I love good police officers. I love him. Uh, I, I talk, I tell a story where I, one of the best gifts I ever got came in from a police officer. And so I'm really, I'm really grateful that you're both here. It really adds a lot to the show. I appreciate you seriously, sincerely to huge compliment that you spent some time with us every day. So thank you for that. All right. We've got three girls. He says, Lloyd Austin in that mask looks like a Goomba from the Mario brothers movie. Seems

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Like he has the brain capacity of them to remember the goombas from the Mario brothers movies. Let's pull them up. Let's pull up the goombas Mario.

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All right. Let's we can, we can even do a, yeah. It kind of does. Yeah, the goombas

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Well, so that's the, that's the regular Goomba. That's the Goomba just from, uh, that's just from the video game, but we don't want that when we want Goomba Mario movie, don't we? Yes, we do. This is the one that we want. This is the Goomba from the Mario,

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And then we have the, the lawyer,

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Uh, the face mask. So let's see if we can, uh, compare and contrast that one. Shall we? Yeah. So there there's Lloyd Austin

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Face mask. See that, and then we have the goombas. Yep, yep. I, yeah. Yeah.

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It's hard to tell. I mean, to be fair to Lloyd, you can't really see much of his face. And so it is being covered up with, you know, the, the, the mask

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Look like it's got some, uh, some pattern on it,

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Which sort of looks like the goombas face. So that's uh, okay. That's a very astute observation there. Three girlies, various Stuart. Thank you for sharing that. Let's see Jeremy's here. Says Rob, I received the memo from the secretary of defense today. Entitled mandatory COVID vaccine service members. Fortunately, I'm already in compliance. I know it's controversial, but hopefully most service members will just get it done so we can move forward and deal with more important issues. That's from Jeremy[inaudible], who's doing his part, serving the country. Thank you, Jeremy. And thanks for the perspective. I think many, many soldiers would agree with you that, Hey, you know, this is okay, fine. I'll just go get it. And I think that is ordinarily perfectly fine with me. The problem I have here is the mandation of it. The mandating of it is something that I think is concerning. Now, the military is a different beast, isn't it? You know, they've, they've, they've got different protocols and different rules.

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But my concern

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With that is that a bunch of people may drop out of the military because

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They don't, they don't want to get the vaccine. And where does

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That leave the country? Not in a good position. All right. We got a couple more here. A lot of questions on this topic says, uh, Jay Heath says, my next door neighbor works for Eatonville high school. I have an interesting conversation with him in the near future. Crazy. I see having an interesting conversation with him in the near future. Yeah. That's what's going on in Eatonville, Jay Heath. And, uh, I'd be curious as to what he has to say about it, but I'm a lick. It says let's see to, to have passion is expensive. Sad to say that most Americans nowadays are ambivalent whether to stand and fight back because not all can afford it, especially if your job security is on the line. True. It's not that they don't have a standard opinion. It's just too pricey, especially if you have dependents that rely on you. So this is a very, very important point to make Bama Likud. It's absolutely true. And it is a precarious position to put people in and the U S government knows this, the powers that be know this, and they know that many people are not going to make a hard decision to jeopardize it.

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Just those things, your family, your job,

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Food on the table for your kids. You're not going to jeopardize that over a vaccine.

Speaker 2: 1:25:56

What are you nuts? Right? And there's a lot of truth to that because you have,

Speaker 1: 1:25:59

I have an obligation, you have a responsibility to your family and provide for them. And so if you're going to lose everything,

Speaker 2: 1:26:06

What do you do? You're kind of in a tough position, but I will tell you this

Speaker 1: 1:26:09

As well. There are also consequences

Speaker 2: 1:26:12

For not speaking. There are consequences for not standing up and for not fighting back against these things. Yes. It may be hard to lose your job. It may be hard to find something else to do so that you can continue to maintain your responsibility, your families. I understand that completely, there are consequences for not speaking. And we're seeing them continue to unfold in front of our very eyes and they're going to continue to do so.

Speaker 1: 1:26:37

Snowball is rolling down the mountain and it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger. We could have stopped it further up on the hill, but we didn't because we all were scared out of our

Speaker 2: 1:26:46

[inaudible] minds. And we said, yes, find 15 days fine. We'll do it masks fine. We'll do it vaccines. Fine. Some people are going to do it. And now it just continues on and it's going to continue on. And it's going to come to a head at some point, and there's going to be a time for some people who are willing to stand up to do so. And there is going to be a time for the people to make that decision and to not do so, but not doing so is going to have

Speaker 1: 1:27:19

Consequences. You just have to be cognizant of that just because it feels safe right now, the snowball is still going down the hill, whether you see it or not, whether you believe it,

Speaker 2: 1:27:28

It is. And so everybody's got to make a difficult position, a difficult decision. And I think with time, we're going to see a lot of people standing up and showing what's an incompetent government we ultimately have. All right, let's see what else. We've got

Speaker 1: 1:27:47

Additional questions coming in. Sergeant Bob says, yes, Idaho would welcome Eastern Oregon and Washington. But legally it's a challenge. People in the east

Speaker 2: 1:27:53

And part of the states want to leave. Yeah. That would be interesting to see if that ever happened.

Speaker 1: 1:27:57

The antique is prime says the mask I have is this black mask with the word sensor,

Speaker 2: 1:28:02

The front. That's a good mask. I like that.

Speaker 1: 1:28:05

The antique is prime says, you know, those guys who think they're going to catch a whole lot of shrimp with a fishing net met for large. Tuna

Speaker 2: 1:28:10

Are pretty funny. Yeah. We've got wants to know, says,

Speaker 1: 1:28:15

Morgan, what is the definition of homeless? Homeless? Don't need to wear masks

Speaker 2: 1:28:17

Discrimination. Can I think I'm homeless. Doesn't show its picture. And it makes me sick. That's from Watson.

Speaker 1: 1:28:23

No, we got, John is fed up. Calgrin says they can't arrest everyone.

Speaker 2: 1:28:26

Just stop wearing them. They can't arrest everybody. And, and, uh, that's, there's a lot of truth

Speaker 1: 1:28:32

That we got farmer former Leo chatting with Sergeant Bob says back at your Sergeant, Bob I'm Bob also just a few decades earlier. Now I have to go find my question. Authority, bumper sticker. I

Speaker 2: 1:28:42

Even had one on my black and white, former Leo.

Speaker 1: 1:28:45

We've got Sergeant Bob. We have former Elio Bob, and we have Rob.

Speaker 2: 1:28:51

This is just, I don't know what's happening here, but I like it. The universe is bringing, bringing us all together. It's a beautiful thing. Thanks to Joe Biden. We have here, uh, VNT, cause

Speaker 1: 1:29:01

Prime says to add to what you were saying in my experience, the price of obedience is often greater than the price of freedom. It just comes later. And with fiercer affects that's from BNT because prime. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:29:11

Yeah. Price of obedience

Speaker 1: 1:29:13

Has consequences. And they're going to stick around for a long time and you can't get rid of them anymore because you've been trapped yourself. You've, you've enslaved yourself. You've dug yourself into a hole. And now you say, you know what? I don't like

Speaker 2: 1:29:24

What they're doing to me too bad. It's too late. You've

Speaker 1: 1:29:26

Already acquiesced to everything else that they've been doing

Speaker 2: 1:29:29

The entire way. So

Speaker 1: 1:29:31

Look, I think that as this snowball continues to roll down the hill, a lot more people are saying my house is in front of that, and I'm not happy about where this is going. And so hopefully we start to see some more activity here in spite of the powers that be, let's see, we got big dog. 1, 1, 1, 1 says, how come there was no discussion regarding the validity and accuracy of the COVID test is every positive test equivalent or are some cases more severe in this contagious than others? That's a good question. Big dog. You know, we, we, we don't talk much medical stuff on the show, just in general because of YouTube policies. It's very,

Speaker 2: 1:30:01

It's very tricky. You don't want

Speaker 1: 1:30:03

To be caught in the medical misinformation category cause they just delete your videos without even telling you. So it's something that we want to be careful about. I think that a lot of people are talking about a lot of those issues on other platforms like rumble and locals. And so I've made me go check those out. If you want to have a conversation about that. Sorry, we just can't talk about it here, but it's

Speaker 2: 1:30:21

Uh, YouTube. It's all like

Speaker 1: 1:30:24

Can do, we've got some super chats that came in, saw a couple here. Uh, Kevin Bergman said, uh, in Oregon, I emailed him.

Speaker 2: 1:30:30

PD said I wouldn't obey. I wonder what they said. And did they respond? I don't know.

Speaker 1: 1:30:36

Justin F says it amazes me vaccinated. People have so little confidence in the vaccine or refuse to go back to their regular lives that they impose crazy restrictions.

Speaker 2: 1:30:44

I know it is weird. It is weird. Like if you get it and it works, what do you care if I get it? What do you care if everybody else gets it? And they might say, well it's because other people are going to die. Okay. Well, they can worry about themselves. What are you worried about them for? Why are you worried,

Speaker 1: 1:31:03

Worried about everything that's happening, problematically in the world. You're going to solve everybody's

Speaker 2: 1:31:06

For them, mind your business. They want to give back

Speaker 1: 1:31:10

Vaccinated. They can get vaccinated. That's all there is to it. So, all right. So we have, uh, that Superchat came in from Kevin Bergman, from Justin FSR. Those thank you very much, gentlemen, for both of those, appreciate all of your support and locals as well. Thank you to everybody chatting away over there. We've got Gail oh eight in the house. Farmer's daughter VNT, cause prime want to know all, Hey, miss. Danny's in the house as well, along with T Fieldman, Arnie[inaudible] and it's looking lively over there, over@watchingthewatchersdotlocals.com. All right, we've got one more segment on the show today and let's get to it. Owen Shroyer, the info wars journalist who was arrested, turned himself in on Monday for

Speaker 2: 1:31:49

A January six, protesting

Speaker 1: 1:31:51

Violation. One of these cases that the us government is making a big deal about, oh, this is the crime of the century. Apparently Owen Shroyer almost took over country, but I didn't see any pictures where he had the podium. So I'm not sure how he's able to do that. But the point here is they're charging him with these crimes, which are basically disorderly conduct and criminal trespass crimes. And they're turning this into another one of the crimes of the century. So he was charged and he came out. We played the video on Friday, last week where he said, listen, I gotta turn myself in. It's a very scary thing. The U S government is already holding many January six protesters, still in custody, not giving them due process, not granting their bail or bond motions and kind of just treating them like political prisoners. I don't want to be a part of that. And so you could hear it in his voice that this was a concerning thing. He had a prior open case in 2019 from other, uh, uh, protest activities. And he's a journalist. And so he goes around and he does these types of events. So now the U S government is prosecuting him. The reason this is a little bit, uh, interesting is because he is a member of the media and you can see that sort of outright, right? He's on Alex Jones is a, uh, info wars. He's on this, this, uh, portrait here. This came from the FBI criminal affidavit. You can see that there where's Waldo champion. The people over there at the FBI, they spend a lot of time searching and putting red bubbles around people in pictures. So we call them where's Waldo champions. This guy did a very good job, was able to find Owen Shroyer right on the front cover of this thing. Wow. I mean, he's not, not even hard to find. So he found him pretty quickly. This one's a little bit tougher to find where's Waldo over here. Oh, look, it's Owen Shroyer, allegedly, according to the FBI documents. Now it's very curious about this as well is Alex Jones seems to be right up here on the, on the Bullhorn taken over the communication conversation with the crowd and these not too far off from Owen Shroyer, Izzy. So the question is Alex Jones going to be charged

Speaker 2: 1:33:39

For this too? I don't know, but now

Speaker 1: 1:33:41

We can see that this isn't a video that says specifically Alex Jones tried to stop the storming of the Capitol. So the FBI is playing there. Where's Waldo game on a video that said that they tried to stop the storming of the Capitol. And so they're circling with their where's Waldo finder, uh, Owen Shroyer now where this could be a little bit more problematic is this photograph where it looks like he's actually kind of on the steps of the Capitol, which is a little bit closer, a little different than this. We don't know where this is, but this one looks like he's closer up in there. And it looks like it's the same outfit, you know, same purple, uh, same black, uh, uh, external vests. See that same going on here and here. And so FBI agent circled this

Speaker 2: 1:34:17

One. Wow. You know, probably took him a little bit, uh, you know, a couple of days to find that one, but

Speaker 1: 1:34:22

Is there's Waldo. Now we've got a complaint. This was filed on August 19th. Talked about that last week, went through that in its entirety. If you miss that video, go check that out. We went through the entire complaint for orange Shroyer. We also have on 8 24. Now a couple things happen. I don't want to spend a ton of time on this because

Speaker 2: 1:34:38

It is a little bit of, um, some, some in the weeds, legal stuff,

Speaker 1: 1:34:42

But a couple of things happen. So the judge came out and actually said,

Speaker 2: 1:34:46

Listen, we have a lot

Speaker 1: 1:34:49

Have competing interests here that we need to talk about. Course we have the government's interests, the prosecutors, the us government, the us attorney's office, the DOJ. They want to make sure that people don't

Speaker 2: 1:34:59

Storm the Capitol. So they've got an interest

Speaker 1: 1:35:01

In prosecuting the people who violated the law. There was a public harm that happened here. Uh, many people say it was the worst thing that ever happened in American history. I disagree. It seemed like a

Speaker 2: 1:35:12

[inaudible] semi violent in certain areas, protest that got problematic, that really resulted in huh?

Speaker 1: 1:35:23

Hundreds of criminal trespass and disorderly conduct charges. That's it. They happen to be in the Capitol, but these are not crimes

Speaker 2: 1:35:29

Aims of the century been saying that for months now, eight months, I've been saying that the

Speaker 1: 1:35:34

I, for some reason, it's still charging them. They found where's Waldo here. They found Owen Shroyer. They charged him. But now we know what the U S government interest is. They want to protect the capital. Fine. We also know that we've got a defendant that we have to think about. All the people charged. They have due process. They have the presumption of innocence. They have the right to be released, absent

Speaker 2: 1:35:53

Any, you know, sort of, uh, extenuating

Speaker 1: 1:35:55

Circumstances that would justify their continued detainer. And the list goes on and on all of your constitutional rights, your right to counsel your right to present evidence, your right to cross examine witnesses, all of it. Gotta make sure we protect those things as well.

Speaker 2: 1:36:07

Don't we? Yes. In my opinion, the DC courts have not really

Speaker 1: 1:36:12

Agreed, but that's okay and not okay. But that's reality. We also have a third competing interests. The journalist, the people who were covering the stories, and this is a new actor in this entire dynamic. What about journalists who were there just covering

Speaker 2: 1:36:25

These cases? What about

Speaker 1: 1:36:27

The guy who sold his video footage for 35,000?

Speaker 2: 1:36:32

What about this journalist? So the judge

Speaker 1: 1:36:35

DC circuit court is asking the prosecutors to clarify. They want to know what is your media policy in the Capitol riot case? Why are these new limits on pursuing journalists not applicable? In this case, you remember that attorney general Merrick Garland last month issued a memo. He wanted to list li limit the justice department, uh, probes of journalists. Remember this? He said, now this is an early test. This is there's a judge overseeing a criminal case here against Owen Shroyer, a talk show host on info wars and an order made public judge.[inaudible] said, prosecutors refuse to answer on the record, whether they complied with the department's policy. We know that Merrick Garland came out and said, yes, the department of justice is going to change. Some things is to how we, as to how we probe journalists. Remember this, this is all the hubbub over Donald Trump apparently was investigating or, or, uh, subpoenaing records

Speaker 2: 1:37:28

From journalists. And so attorney

Speaker 1: 1:37:31

General Merrick Garland came in and said, we're better than that. We're not going to do what that orange maniac did. And so we're going to change our journalist policies. We're not going to go and probe into them.

Speaker 2: 1:37:42

Um, then they charged Owen Shroyer. And so we're going

Speaker 1: 1:37:45

See what they say and how they justify that last month, Mr. Garland limited federal prosecutor's ability to obtain records of reporters contacts when investigating leaks of sensitive information, a free and independent press is vital to the functioning of our democracy. The attorney general feigned in a memo to federal prosecutors, Mr. Garland said the agency's prior policies hadn't properly weighed the national interest in protecting journalists from forced disclosure from their sources. Right? So what we're talking about here is sort of what can the government extract out of a defendant who is a journalist, do some of the media protections, the, uh, the, the news protections apply to these journalists and how do you balance those things out? You've got January 6th, the worst insurrection ever. And you've got this really, really, you know, chaotic scene where prosecutors are throwing everything that they can at these defendants, but they're simultaneously wanting to protect journalists. And so far, so much to the extent that they even issued a memo and changed the policies dramatically in order to make that. So how do you balance these two out? How do you reconcile the two opposing competing interests. Let's take a look. This is what the judge had to say. The judge yesterday came out with an addendum order and he's asking the court or asking the prosecutors are telling, ordering them. You've got to do something. This is USA vs. Jonathan Owen Shroyer. It's nine pages. We're not going to go through it in entirety, but I want to show you what's happening here. August 19th, the court issued an arrest warrant. So pay close attention. Remember how this works. We've got the FBI agent files, an affidavit fills out a complaint. We've read many of the complaints here on the show and they all say January 6th, support and date, you know, Mike Pence, counting the votes, all the Congress, people in the building, right? Blah, blah, blah. Very scary. They all got evacuated. Alex AOC got PTSD, blah blah. Right? So on August 19th, then FBI agent fills all that out. Sends that into the court, says, judge, look this Owen Shroyer guy, bad dude. He was on a stage and he was next to Alex Jones. And then he was on the steps of the Capitol building. We got to go get him. So the FBI agent where's Waldo champion of the day said that, uh, we're going to draft this complaint and go serve that in into the court. And the court then is going to grant a warrant so that we can go arrest this guy that happened back on August 19th, they issued the arrest warrant. The department of justice recently updated its policies about investigating media members. Part of its review. The court, the judge here asked the DOJ. If they comply with this rule, it's called 28 CFR 50 10 a policy regarding information from the news media specific law that says, listen, if you're going to be sort of, you know, playing around with, newspeople make sure you're complying with this rule. The judge asked the prosecutors to follow the rule. The department refused to provide an answer on the record. The prosecutor's not answering anything. The court then issues this addendum opinion to ensure the record accurately reflects the following conversations between the core and the DOJ and the departments break with its prior practice of confirming its adherence to these regulations. Huh? So, so what the judge has said there is, uh, Hm. Okay. We had a hearing on August 19th. And when you came in here, I asked you specifically, I issued this warrant. What is your policy about going after members of the

Speaker 2: 1:40:58

Media and the us attorney's office? According to the judge, refused to provide an answer on the record. We don't know, uh, well can't answer you or not answering or a bunch of equivocating statements. We don't know. So the judge then said, just to

Speaker 1: 1:41:10

Be clear, just so the record is clear. I'm going to tell you what I want for you.

Speaker 2: 1:41:13

You don't want to put it into writing and you're going to have to go do it. You have historically confirmed to this court. The judges implying that you have been following the mandates under the code of federal regulations that you've been complying with that regulation when you're investigating members of the media. Now

Speaker 1: 1:41:32

Twenty-five times in the past, but now today you're not doing that. Why? Very curious. And so now we're going to clear the record up aren't we? So this judge says in response to a draft copy of this adenoma,

Speaker 2: 1:41:41

The justice department submitted a, an attached to letter. We're going to take a look at next. Judge says, quote, it misses the mark. True.

Speaker 1: 1:41:50

The department of justice retains the right to do what it wants with these regulations. But this renders the DOJs newfound silence no less concerning.

Speaker 2: 1:42:00

The department of

Speaker 1: 1:42:00

Justice has volunteered such information in the past without any demonstrable huh.

Speaker 2: 1:42:04

Harm to its deliberative process. The central question was not how they compiled the regulation, but if they did okay. So the judges sort of in this paragraph, rebutting what the prosecutor says. So the pro, so the judge on August 19th says, Hey,

Speaker 1: 1:42:19

Prosecutors, are you complying with the media rule? Yes or no, they don't answer.

Speaker 2: 1:42:23

So the judge then says, well, uh, you better answer that for us. And, uh, they sent a letter back over to the judge. This was drafted on August 23rd. So the prosecutor

Speaker 1: 1:42:35

Now sends this over to the judge

Speaker 2: 1:42:37

And they say, judge, we're responding to your request that you didn't get a good answer about how we're complying with the rule.

Speaker 1: 1:42:47

We regret that the court has found our response unsatisfied

Speaker 2: 1:42:50

Actory we believe it's appropriate as the,

Speaker 1: 1:42:53

They say, as noted in the order. The question before the court is whether Shroyer committed federal offenses. When we reviewed and submitted the complaint in the arrest warrant, the court asked about certain media safety,

Speaker 2: 1:43:04

But they say those safeguards fall within the province of the[inaudible]

Speaker 1: 1:43:09

Negative branch. And they do not bear on the question of probable cause before the court. So the prosecutor sent a letter back

Speaker 2: 1:43:14

Back over to the judge and said, judge, thanks for asking about that media policy. It's none of your business, it's our business, right?

Speaker 1: 1:43:21

If we decide that we want to prosecute somebody and we, we think there's enough probable cause. And that's the only thing we're asking you to do

Speaker 2: 1:43:28

Inquire about. Thanks for asking about it, but kind of none of your business, isn't

Speaker 1: 1:43:33

Clear the recent attorney general memorandum and the applicable regulations relating to the news media. They are binding amongst a department attorney

Speaker 2: 1:43:41

In the us attorney's office, like all other components. These are scrupulously followed. Likewise. We have training accountability, attorneys who follow the rules

Speaker 1: 1:43:51

Are sanctioned. Got it. The representations that the department provided previously to the court were intended to underscore these

Speaker 2: 1:43:57

Points while recognizing that we follow these rules in principle,

Speaker 1: 1:44:03

July 19th, Merrick Garland issued a new memorandum, said that there's a use of a compulsory process with members of the media. However, they say the policy does not give rise to an enforceable, right? So there's telling us, even though the DOJ,

Speaker 2: 1:44:19

The policy, so what our policy, we don't have to do it if we don't want to. If we decide that we're just going to not comply with that policy,

Speaker 1: 1:44:33

That's our business judge. The only thing we're asking you to inquire about is the warrant and probable cause. And if there is enough of that to issue the warrant so we

Speaker 2: 1:44:42

Can go arrest him,

Speaker 1: 1:44:45

Typically not a good strategy to tell a judge that it's none of the judge's business, but see how this worked out for him accordingly, a requirement to proffer to the court, how, and on what basis the executive branch has made determinations is inconsistent with the appropriate role of the court.

Speaker 2: 1:45:01

So

Speaker 1: 1:45:02

Don't ask us about it because we might have to disclose privileged deliberations. Moreover, such inquiries could be risk impeding the Frank and thoughtful deliberation. So the prosecutor is saying, judge, if you ask us about that, if you inquire about whether we complied with the rules, we're going to have to tell you what we did. And if we tell you what we did well, that might breach internal privilege deliberation. So they don't want to do that. They say, we appreciate the issues animating the court's inquiry, but we do not believe it's appropriate for the court to inquire as to how the government implements its internal policies. Particularly when dealing with actions of the executive branch, this is a separation of powers issue. They give us some case law here, separation of powers, forbids the courts from becoming continuing monitors of the wisdom of the prosecutors. And so on. They say as the court notes, our office conferred on previous occasions, certain aspects of the media policies, but those are distinguishable from this case. And so we're not bound by those here signed off on by John crab, junior chief of the criminal division of the us attorney's office.

Speaker 2: 1:46:07

Um, so the, the, uh, John crab is basically saying, yeah, thanks for asking about that judge, but we don't think

Speaker 1: 1:46:15

It gets appropriate for us to tell you that at all. And so the judge, as we noted said, it misses the Mark Justice department retains the right to do what it wants, but doesn't answer the question. Why this time, last time you volunteered all of your information saying that you were complying with the rule this time. You're not saying that. Why is that? So the judge said, this is the inquiry on August 19th. This is back to what the judge wrote. So we just went through the prosecutor's letter. The judge is now saying, this is not, this is why this is problematic. On August 19th, we had a telephone conference, the undersigned, the judge inquired. They want to know as to whether the DOJ

Speaker 2: 1:46:51

Considered Shroyer to be a member of the media. So we want to know, right. They said their letter back was we don't think

Speaker 1: 1:46:59

Appropriate for you to inquire about our internal policies. The judge says I don't care. Okay, that's fine. But I also want to know, this is sure you're a member of the media. I need to know that the USAO had complied with the DOJ policies regarding the arrest of media members, whether they had complied with other media members and whether the assistant us attorney would memorialize the answers to these two questions in the complaint, consistent with their prior practice. Okay. That was back on August 19th, us attorney's office said it, it had followed internal guidelines, but was not willing unwilling to memorialize that or explain the basis for its determinations.

Speaker 2: 1:47:35

So the judge

Speaker 1: 1:47:36

Asked these questions and wanted in the original complaint, but they wouldn't do it. The court issues, this addendum in response to their break with their prior practice, they want to judge wants to ensure the record

Speaker 2: 1:47:46

Is clear. So we're going to do

Speaker 1: 1:47:49

It now. And he goes through, we're going to skip down to the analysis, but they're talking about, uh, basically the department of justice, their prior practice

Speaker 2: 1:47:58

Informs the court's

Speaker 1: 1:47:59

Decision saying that the justice department was doing this previously. They're not

Speaker 2: 1:48:03

Doing it. Now. They give us an example

Speaker 1: 1:48:05

From the pers case, U S attorney's office, they got an arrest warrant for another Capitol hill. Defendant was wearing a black vest, had the word press on. Either side, had a long black pole statement of facts included a footnote saying the defiant could not identify that he was associated with the press or had any press credential

Speaker 2: 1:48:23

So that

Speaker 1: 1:48:26

He didn't apply. The court rejected that warrant because there was little to indicate what the U S attorney

Speaker 2: 1:48:31

These were saying. They resubmitted it saying that

Speaker 1: 1:48:34

He was not a member of the press. And then the judge issued the arrest warrant. So what's happening here in a different case. In the purse case, the us attorney's office went in, filed a criminal complaint with a request for a warrant to the judge. It went over to the judge. The judge said, okay, I'm looking at this. I'm trying to determine if there's enough probable cause here to sign off on your warrant. So you can go arrest this man. I have a couple of questions about the case. You've done an investigation here, and I'm looking at your basis for why I should write this warrant. And I'm looking at the picture and it says he has the words press on his shirt in a black vest. Is he a member of the press? Because if so, that might adjust the probable cause determination as to whether a crime was being committed or whether it was a journalist doing journalism

Speaker 2: 1:49:21

Things. They have some leeway for a whole

Speaker 1: 1:49:24

Slew of different reasons. So the judge is trying to inquire. They submit the request for the warrant. The judge looks at, it says, I don't see anywhere in here, whether this is a member of the press or not. And there are some facts that tend to make me believe that he is so the justice department in that case said, okay, judge, let, let's clarify this for you. He's not a member of the press. We went and found it. And they wrote it into the criminal complaint and they submitted it. And the judge said, perfect. So I'm taking a look at this. All right. That all sounds like it's a crime. He's not a member of the press. So there's no exemptions there. Perfect issued the arrest warrant. Sounds like a pretty reasonable approach to it. So

Speaker 2: 1:49:59

This time now they're not doing it. Judges asking why? Because this guy,

Speaker 1: 1:50:04

I certainly seems to be like, he's a member of the press. He's on info wars website, right? He's does journalism

Speaker 2: 1:50:09

Being all the time. And they're not willing

Speaker 1: 1:50:11

To memorialize that. Why not? The judge was asking about that. He said another recently unsealed application also reveals their prior willingness to assure the court followed the guidelines. A different case, finds a different case here

Speaker 2: 1:50:25

Or redacted. They complied

Speaker 1: 1:50:28

With the requirements of the U S code of the CA a code of federal regulations found a different one, right? So the judge is going back through and said, well, you did it. In that case,

Speaker 2: 1:50:35

You did it in this case, you did it in that case. So why not? In this case right now in front of you,

Speaker 1: 1:50:40

But here, the judge says the government is unwilling to address its compliance with its internal regulations.

Speaker 2: 1:50:46

Why when questioned by the court

Speaker 1: 1:50:48

USAO representatives, they say that they'd followed such guidelines and they would not formally state in there please,

Speaker 2: 1:50:54

Nor would they memorialize the reasons why

Speaker 1: 1:50:57

He was not a member of the news

Speaker 2: 1:50:59

Media who had committed the instant offense. Judge says

Speaker 1: 1:51:03

The events of January 6th were an attack on the foundation of our democracy, but this does not relieve the department of justice from following its own guidelines written to preserve the very same democracy.

Speaker 2: 1:51:16

Shorter's

Speaker 1: 1:51:16

2020 arrest gave him clear notice that he could not engage in disruptive and writing.

Speaker 2: 1:51:21

Yet. Beginning on January 5th,

Speaker 1: 1:51:23

Joined him. We have some information about what he said. We already read through that during the complaint, the final paragraph here from the judge says the undersigned finds. There was probable cause to believe he committed the violations. But whether the department of justice violated or comply with its policies, the court has not received a good answer yet. Even if a credentialed journalist engaged in the instant contact, I'm sorry, yet. Even if a credentialed journalist engaged in the instant conduct, there would be no question of probable cause for the arrest. So he's going to be

Speaker 2: 1:51:54

Guilty anyways, at

Speaker 1: 1:51:56

Least the probable cause portion of this not guilty, right? We're still early in the case, the department of justice appears to believe that it is the sole enforcer of its regulations that leaves the court.

Speaker 2: 1:52:07

I wonder who watches the Watchmen. See that last sentence right there. Who watches the Watchman signed off on here by Zia M far, far Wookiee us Magister Drudge DC circuit court who watches the Watchman we do right here on this channel. That's why we do it. Watching the Watchers with your help. We shine them.

Speaker 1: 1:52:32

Big, beautiful spotlight of accountability, transparency, and justice. Let's take a look@thequestionsoverfromwatchingthewatchersdotlocals.com got a couple coming in here. LT, Helgren, Lieutenant Calgrin says, don't forget the fire service we're here. Cops need heroes

Speaker 2: 1:52:46

Too.

Speaker 1: 1:52:48

Uh, it started, it started cops need heroes too. Oh, John. Oh, that's hilarious. So Viking says, I am unsure. The government agencies are loving the high profile arrest. I'm sure they are loving the high profile arrest of Owen. As the narrative continues to unravel. I still don't understand why John Sullivan, who was hurt on video stoking things was released virtually immediately. He just didn't wander in the Capitol. Uh, also any news about the unindicted co-conspirators no, there's not. There's not so Viking. Well, that's largely because the government hasn't really disclosed any evidence. They still have thousands, tens of thousands of hours of video that they're organizing. They've been doing it for eight months. They just hired a new company in June and they just started transferring the materials. So the judges go, oh really? You need more time. Oh God, it sounds like it's a lot of evidence got a lot of Waldo books you got to go through. So most of the discovery to my knowledge is still not disclosed. So how can you find out you, you can't find out where all the tentacles crisscross, so you can identify people who might be co-conspirators or undercover agents, or, you know, paid informants or whatever, until you start going through the discovery that the government is refusing to disclose. Isn't that fun. We have another one here from thunder. Seven says this is an absolute madness. The dams are desperate at the Arizona audit distracting with nonsense like this didn't even enter the building, just an observer. And I heard Alex Jones talk about how he stopped hundreds entering the building. As he knew it was a trap. He asked the police to stop them entering and told them he could do it, which he did with a bull horn and probably stopped more innocent maggot people being thrown in prison, right? In the FBI affidavit, they have a video of a screenshot from videos that were posted, saying, Alex Jones is trying to stop people from

Speaker 2: 1:54:27

Going in there, charging him with the crime. That's the thing

Speaker 1: 1:54:30

BI Sergeant Bob says. Wow, good thing. When I was Sergeant giving role call that the troops did not know if they seize the podium, they could take control. Yes. That wonderful that your program brings us all together. Who would have thought that's from Sergeant Bob. I know it's a weird, it's weird how the universe works. The big man upstairs,

Speaker 2: 1:54:47

Whatever you believe in energy karma, pretty amazing.

Speaker 1: 1:54:51

We have news. Now Wyoming says you might show in the top of the court opinion with the case number. I want to take the time to look more into reading the decision you all. I can do you one better. Uh, so if you download the slides, which you should be able to, it will actually take you directly to that,

Speaker 2: 1:55:07

Uh, to the link. So it'll take you

Speaker 1: 1:55:09

Right to the case, right? To the PDF. If you want to do that, I was going to try to see if I could copy and paste

Speaker 2: 1:55:14

That link, but I can not,

Speaker 1: 1:55:17

Uh, not at the moment. So yeah, if you download the slides which are available@watchingthewatchersdotlocals.com, I will very regularly

Speaker 2: 1:55:24

Put the links and I did here.

Speaker 1: 1:55:27

So you can just take it. It will take you over to court. listener.com and court listener.com will give you access to a lot of the, um, court documents. In federal cases, federal cases are behind a paywall, really it's called pacer. And, uh, you have to be an attorney to log in there and you get access to the cases. But many attorneys like me when I go and I browse those, there's a plugin that when we view files from the federal website, it will download the files and automatically upload them creating sort of a mirror repository of a lot of federal court documents. Those are over on court listener.com. And so, uh, any, anytime, any documents that I see just automatically get uploaded over there, we're all sort of doing our part to spread the information around. So you can find a lot of that stuff at court, listener.com or download the slides. And I, I try my best to put links in to the original sources on the slides, for questions like that, so that people can download them and start going through them on their own. We have Perry masonary says if the Watchman watch themselves and there is no accountability, of course not. That's right. That's why we always say that, you know, all of these bureaucrats who investigate themselves and have commissions and they go to internal affairs and they, uh, you know, really do a deep dive on their own misconduct and weird. They didn't find anything. Again, strange happens all the time. I don't know how a news now I owning says, okay, more serious question. Now for crimes like this, when does the speedy trial concerns start coming about? I understand they need a lot of time for murder charges, but this is a lot less than that. Not if you talk to the U S attorneys, I think that murder charges would be like a lower level offense. In fact, maybe these people could plead down to murder. Well, we're not going to charge you with a criminal trespass or disorderly conduct. We're going to let you go. Cause we want the death penalty for that. We'll let you plead guilty to murder

Speaker 2: 1:57:10

Two. How about that? We'll give you 20

Speaker 1: 1:57:12

Years in prison. Give you a light sentence because what they did was almost ruined the country. Apparently now for the speedy trial stuff, we talked

Speaker 2: 1:57:20

About this there's,

Speaker 1: 1:57:23

There's a lot of complexities with the speedy trial stuff you've got, you've got the ability to waive time. And so if the defense is waiving that time, then any time that elapses that the defense waves doesn't count against the clock. So if a defense attorney waives that time, or they just agree to a continuance that excludes that time from the calculation, then they're there. You know, the speedy trial stuff can go on indefinitely. And we've seen that with a lot of January six cases. And even in situations where the defense objects to continuances to saying no, no, no. We want our trial immediately. The government has not given us the disclosure that we need. One of the tactics that defense attorneys will often use is if you get charged with a crime, you'll use your speedy trial rights in order to force the government's hand. If the government charges somebody with a crime and they're not really ready to proceed yet, you could use that to your advantage. That is often a reality. The government charges people, but they don't get the blood results back in time or something, right. They have a witness that they're not able to secure and bring into a trial. So what you do is you use the speedy trial, right? And you say, I'm not giving up a day. I'm not waiting one day. I'm going to make sure that we are enforcing our right to a speedy trial. And I want my trial like next week, the judge will say, well, they're not ready next week. And so they're gonna, you know, they'll give the state as much time as they can within the speedy trial rules to bring the case. And if their speedy trial is coming up, if that deadline is coming up and the government's not ready, guess what they got to dismiss the case. So there's an acronym. It's called war. We're always ready. We're ready, better. We're ready faster than the government is. We do more work faster. We're prepared, ready to go. And if they're not, you can use that to your advantage. But there are also situations where you can be a defense lawyer and you can say, no, judge we're ready to go. They don't have their evidence. They haven't given us 14,000 hours of video footage from the Capitol building too bad. That's their problem. We're ready. Now, the judge can say, well, these are extraordinary circumstances. These, uh, you know, these situations situation is problematic. And so what I'm going to do is I'm going to grant the government to continuance anyways, and I'm not going to count that time against them. I'm going to count that against you defendant. And so your speedy trial rights sort of gets dumped all over because the government needs more time. And the, the judge finds that that is a reasonable request and they exclude the time out of your calculation. So this can, this can go a number of different ways, right? And it also depends on if there's a plea offer. It also depends on the strength and the weaknesses of the case depends on the defendant, depends on whether he wants to contest this thing or plead out to a low-level misdemeanor offense. You know, there's a lot of, of complexities that go on in any of these cases, which is why it's a good idea to hire a lawyer. We offer free case evaluations are our law, easy.com. If you need any help with anything John Halperin says in this day and age, I'm allowed to identify as almost anything I choose except being a member of the press. My biggest issue with this case is the idea that the government can decide. You're not a legitimate member of the press. Freedom of the press says nothing about credentials, tagging yourself as press seems pretty basic and should suffice some John Haugen. I liked that John. Yeah. Right? Who gets, who press credentials. Right? All, all of that I think is, is, um, connected back constitutionally to time, place and manner restrictions and things like that. But I understand what you're saying. We have this sort of pseudo sophisticated class of the media journalists. And you know, they don't like independent media. People like me, people like you, people who are, you know, offering commentary and doing our own digging a little bit and talking about stories because they want you to go to CNN. They want you to go to Fox, to MSNBC where they tell you what the news is. Remember who, who was it saying that, um, well they're all on this misinformation kick. There, there was some news anchor who was very mad that said, don't look into that. We tell you what the truth is. I think it was Cuomo actually. Now that I think about it, uh, Laci says, please, Rob, I beg you never, ever put on Kamala's cackle. We have an extremely sensitive hearing. Dogs are not the same after listening to that horrible, evil sound. That's from Lassie. Unless, you know, uh, you know, I've got, I've got a strong vote in favor of the Camila cackle. And I've got Lassie over here who says don't do it. So it's a difficult position to be in. If we do the Camila cackle, it's only going to be used very, very sparingly that's for sure. We have another one here from Lassie. Oh, I already got that one last week. Let's see what else we got news now says I use pacer as a, non-attorney pay about$80 a quarterly bill. Oh, news now uses pacer. I didn't know. You could do that as a non-attorney. That's pretty cool. So there you go. But you got to pay for it, right? So typically law firms do it because every time you click a page, it's like 10 cents, I think is what it is news. Now, Wyoming, but news. Now Wyoming sounds like he talks a lot about the news when it happens now in Wyoming. So maybe you should go check out what his work looks like. We have former Elio says I was always a process. Leo in the, in that the law was more important than an arrest. After all of this time, they are doing their best to destroy my confidence in the process. After that happens, what's left. Uh, yeah, I know it's, it's madness. And it's a continual crumbling of the institutions all around us, which is kind of a scary thing, but it allows us to build new institutions that are better. That's happening. Let's see what we have here. Tweak is here. And I got a big shout out for tweak. I want to thank you, tweak for your very, very generous support over at Eric's house.org. I do appreciate that. They sent me an email and said, you made a, made a little bit of support over there. Thank you for that. It's very generous. Did not have to do that, but I appreciate it says, uh, this is how you prove your real journalists Western far, right. Groups claim the Taliban victory as their own. Okay. A Politico far-right Taliban, Afghanistan, social media, Facebook and Twitter. Why Afghanistan's collapse is an opportunity for far right. Racist. Wow. And neo-Nazis and white nationalists celebrate the Taliban takeover. MSNBC political and wall street journal. Yeah. Well, is that the thing, is that really happening? Probably not. Thank you for that tweak. Uh, right. We have a, that was the last question over from watching the watchers.locals.com. We had a super chat come in from look, two G says, legacy media is jealous of you because you are crushing it. Thanks Rob. That's from Luke. Look to G thank you. Look to G for the support. You know, I, I gotta, I gotta be honest. It's really hard to watch any of that old media. It really is. I spent a lot of my time on YouTube, listening to other independent creators, other people who are offering their perspective. It's from real people. It's not from people that have a hundred different news people in, you know, writing stories and coordinating with everybody and colluding with the white house and colluding with the big government. And it's all, it's all just a scripted joke. Most of it. So we're, we're doing things differently. We're having real conversations, building a real, we're really interested in seeing progress in our country, not just sort of, you know, whatever they do on

Speaker 2: 2:04:47

Those platforms.

Speaker 1: 2:04:48

All right. Great questions. Uh, all of those from watching the watchers.locals.com. Thanks for the super chats today. Look to G Justin F Kevin Bergman. We got Avalon acres Tager with SyFy. Really do appreciate all of that support on YouTube. Want to welcome some new members who were supporting us over on locals? We have a chai web dev is, uh, maybe it might be Chicago web development. I don't know. We got action, man, who signed up and joined the community. Big shout out to doc thunder bone is in the house as well. We've got miss Danny, 2021 who signed up as well. Last week we had jagged man. We had M J B www Mustang, Jeff shout outs to keep her 21. Cool guy, 18,000 Sapper Jackson, Ken north under Mr. M B P WC Hodges and watch her 45. Do you want to join up 50 bucks for the year? You save two months, otherwise you can pay five bucks a month. And as I mentioned earlier, a big thank you to tweak for the support over at Eric's house.org. Really, really do appreciate it. If you're not a member over at locals and you want to join us this Saturday, we're going to have a lot of fun. We've got a monthly locals meetup taking place via zoom Saturday, August 21st from seven to 8:00 PM. And it's where we just kind of spend an hour. We keep it short, keep it sweet. We get to put names to faces and kind of see who you are. So if you want to come up, come over to zoom. Then what you can do is,

Speaker 2: 2:06:10

Uh, keep your camera on. Keep your camera off, use your room,

Speaker 1: 2:06:12

Use your screen name, whatever you want to do, but we just have a talk. It's like 30 people. Sometimes it goes up and goes down, stay as long as you like or, or stay the whole time.

Speaker 2: 2:06:22

It's a good time. And it's a great opportunity to

Speaker 1: 2:06:26

Meet some people, put some names to faces and continue to build the community that we're building. And so I hope to see you there watching the watchers.locals.com and that my friends is it for me for the day. I want to thank you so much for being here, being a part of the show, asking amazing questions and offering your tremendous support. We're going to be back here. Same time, same place tomorrow to do it all again. And I want to invite you to be a part of it as well as subscribe and make sure you hit that notification bell. We're going to be back here. 4:00 PM, Arizona time, 5:00 PM, mountain 6:00 PM. Central 7:00 PM on the east coast. And for that one, Florida man, everybody else have a tremendous evening sleep very well. I'll see you right back here tomorrow. Bye-bye.