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Kamala Harris Guatemala Trip, Secoriea Turner Family Sues Atlanta, Inmates Escape Federal Prison​

June 09, 2021
Watching the Watchers with Robert Gouveia Esq.
Kamala Harris Guatemala Trip, Secoriea Turner Family Sues Atlanta, Inmates Escape Federal Prison​
Show Notes Transcript

Vice President Kamala Harris, appointed informal Border Czar by President Biden, visits Guatemala to address the border non-crisis in a non-border country. The family of 8-year-old Secoriea Turner, who was shot and killed in the summer of unrest in 2020, sues the Atlanta Mayor and others for failure to secure the area and remove violent protestors. Trouble in America’s prisons as guards abuse prisons in New York and inmates escape from federal prisons using dummies and body doubles. And more! Join criminal defense lawyer Robert F. Gruler in a discussion on the latest legal, criminal and political news, including:​

🔵 Vice President Kamala Harris receives an icy welcome during her first trip to Guatemala to address the border crisis.​
🔵 Guatemala President Alejandro Giammattei blamed the United States for luring his constituents north.​
🔵 Kamala arrived protestors holding signs reading “go home” and “mind your own business” and that Guatemala is “pro-life.”​
🔵 Vice President Harris speaks in Guatemala, telling citizens “don’t come” to the United States.​
🔵 Strangely, Kamala Harris said in 2017 that “everyone is welcome here”​
🔵 Harris joins Lester Holt on NBC for an interview where she says she has been to the border (she hasn’t).​
🔵 AOC reacts and slams Kamala Harris saying “this is disappointing to see”​
🔵 Family of 8-year Secoriea Turner, who was shot and killed during the summer of unrest, files a lawsuit against the City of Atlanta.​
🔵 Turner was killed when a group of armed individuals open fire on the family’s vehicle after viewing fireworks on July 4th.​
🔵 Julian Conley has been charged with killing the young girl and has been denied bond three times.​
🔵 Police are still looking for other suspects, as there were multiple people firing into the vehicle.​
🔵 Secoriea’s family filed a complaint against the City of Atlanta as well as the Mayor and other leads.​
🔵 The lawsuit, filed in the Fulton County State Court, alleges the city leaders failed to remove armed vigilantes during the protests and that they were responsible for the shooting that killed Secoriea.​
🔵 New Jersey is closing its only women’s prison after rampant abuse by the guards.​
🔵 Governor Phil Murphy announced the Edna Mahan Correctional Facility for Weapon is being closed.​
🔵 Current inmates will be moved to different facilities after reports surface of serious abuse by guards within the prison.​
🔵 BAD POPO: Ten correctional police officers face charges for misconduct: Lt. Eddie Molina, Sgt. Andraia Bridges, Ofc. Lisandro A. Garcia, Sgt. Amir E. Bethea, Sgt. Anthony J. Valvano, Sg.t Matthew D. Faschan, Senior Ofc. Jose Irizarry, Senior Ofc. Courey James, Senior Ofc. Gustavo Sarmiento Jr., Senior Ofc. Tara Wallace.​
🔵 Four inmates escape from Beaumont, Texas federal prison after using dummies and body doubles to fool guards.​
🔵 Office of the Inspector General issues new report entitled “Notification of Security Concerns” at Federal prisons and details what happened.​
🔵 Michael Carvajal is the Bureau of Prisons chief, a hold over Trump appointee, who is responsible for security in federal prisons.​
🔵 Review the Department of Justice report filed by Michael E. Horowitz, the Inspector General.​
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Hello, my friends. And welcome back to yet. Another episode of watching the Watchers live. My name is Robert ruler. I am a criminal defense attorney here at the RNR law group in the always beautiful and sunny Scottsdale Arizona, where my team and I over the course of many years have represented thousands of good people facing criminal charges. And throughout our time in practice, we have seen a lot of problems with our justice system. I'm talking about misconduct involving the police. We have prosecutors behaving poorly. We have judges not particularly interested in a little thing called justice, and it all starts with the politicians, the people at the top, the ones who write the rules and pass the laws that they expect you and me to follow, but sometimes have a little bit of difficulty doing so themselves. That's why we started this show called watching the Watchers so that together with yours help, we can shine that beautiful spotlight of accountable ability and transparency back down upon our system with the hope of finding justice. And we're grateful that you are here and with us today, we've got a lot of news to get into today. And I mean, a lot, there is so much going on. I had a difficult time today actually picking the topics for the show. Some stuff that we're not going to get to. I'm probably going to get to on my other channels, which are linked down below, but we have the dark side pipeline hack, which I'm going to make a video about. It's a crypto hack video that just came out, but the FBI's involved justice departments involved. We have a new international sting operation that just happened. And of course that's a big story as well, but the big sort of domestic story right now is the fact that Kamala Harris went down across the border into Guatemala. And so we got to cover that story because we've been speaking about this a lot here. Of course, immigration law is something that impacts the entire country and pecs largely, you know, you can argue the world. It's a big story. And United States has had a problem with immigration for some time. And it doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on here, whether you are pro immigration or sort of pro border security, you can be in a position where you think that this is an issue. Anyways, Kamala Harris has been put in charge of this problem for us. And she went down to Guatemala. And so we have to talk about what happened on that trip, because there are a couple of interesting things that we're going to point out. Then we're going to change gears. And we're going to talk about a case where an eight year old girl was shot and killed back in 2020. And this was following the summer of unrest. This young girl's name is Cicoria Turner. This happened in Atlanta. Remember last year we talked about a story about a gentleman named Ray shard, Brooks who was shot and killed by police officers there. Garrett Rolf, I think was the name of that officer. And there was a, you know, a lot of upset people about that after that occurred. And there were protests and riots taking place around Atlanta. Well, lo and behold, something happened, the city could not get control of the situation. There was a shooting that took place. A bunch of individuals shot into a car that car unfortunately had young eight-year-old Cicoria Turner inside, and she was shot and killed. So awful story. But Nia now sort of a year later, the whole dynamic changed across this country. We're starting to see some resolutions with some of the most high profile cases like Derek Shovan. The other officers are working their way through the system. And now people are starting to, you know, maybe ask about situations like these. What about this family that lost their daughter? Is there any sort of compensation or consequences that are going to benefit them? So the question is, well, what are they going to do about it? Well, they turned around and they filed a lawsuit. So they are suing Atlanta city and the mayor as well, as well as a whole slew of other people for failing to secure the area for basically letting these protests, letting these riots just run rampant all throughout Atlanta. What they're saying is they caused the environment which led to the shooting of Ms. Turner, the young eight year old girl who of course passed away. So we're going to break down that lawsuit, take a look at what's going on in there and look at it from a different perspective. George Floyd and his family got$27 million. This is sort of the other end of some of that unrest. And now what we're saying is, well, what w w what's going to happen with this family? We'll take a look and break down that lawsuit. Then we're going to wrap up. We've got some seriously bad Popo around there, around here. I'm talking about the United States. We're going to talk about what's going on out of New Jersey. New Jersey is closing. It's only women's prison after there's rampant abuse by the guards. Go figure. No kidding. So we're going to go through that story. Governor Phil Murphy, who's the governor out there announced that they're gonna be closing this down. There's some seriously bad Popo. They're correctional police officers, 10 of them. We're going to talk about, we got Eddie Molina. We got Andrea Bridges. We got a mere Bethesda. We've got Anthony Valvano. So a lot of them and six others that we're going to talk about briefly today. They've all been charged with different crimes for abuse as police officers, correctional police officers. So we're going to take a look at that case and then closely related for inmates escaped from a federal prison in Beaumont, Texas. How does that happen while they use dummies? And I mean that like dummies and then they use body doubles. So when the guards were sort of, you know, uh, doing their counts, they would just sort of swap somebody in there. And that person, the guards would count that they say, Oh, that's Rob, right? It wasn't Rob, it's a body double, or it's a dummy. Uh, so we're going to talk about the Bureau of prisons what's going on there. So we've got a lot to get into, as you can see here, if you want to be a part of the show, the place that you can do that is by going over to watching the watchers.locals.com, which is a separate community that we are building up where we do things additional to what we do here. Here's just a show there. What we have is a community where we share links throughout the day. You can download a lot of, a lot of stuff that we do here. So a free copy of all the slides that we're about to go through free copy of my book. We have several events coming up like the law enforcement interaction training, and we have a monthly meetup. And there's just a lot of good reasons to go over there. You also though, get to ask questions as we're going through the show. So if you have one, a question, a comment or criticism, you can send it on over in the live chat that's taking place right now@watchingthegotlocals.com and Ms. Faith we'll clip those, throw those in the slides, and we'll make sure that we get to those couple other quick pointers before we start. There are some links down below to some other channels, as well as to our law firm, which is located in Scottsdale Arizona. And we love to help good people who are facing criminal charges like misdemeanor cases or felony charges or traffic violations. And so if you need any of those services, of course, contact us down below. All right? So let's get into the news of the day. Vice president, Kamala Harris finally made a trip down across the border. Didn't go to the border, but went across the border down into Guatemala. Because as we know in the United States, we've been dealing with an immigration problem. For some time. We're talking about hundreds of thousands of people every month who are coming up from the Southern border up through the Southern hemisphere, up to our Southern border in the United States, because they want the American dream. They want to be a part of what we have here in our country, which is a pretty great thing. So I don't blame them for that, but there's been this recent surge and seems like something happened that caused this surge. If you recall, there was something important that happened back in January of this year, where we changed administrations, went from one presidency to another. Donald Trump was not here anymore. Now Joe Biden comes into power and suddenly the border turns into this massive problem. Now he's have hundreds of thousands of people coming across. Remember we went through this, we already played this game back during the Trump administration. And the media was hyperventilating over this for a very long time. Kids in cages, AOC went down to the border and was crying, you know, hanging from the chain link fence, very dramatic, this big gigantic problem. Donald Trump was a racist. This was the biggest catastrophe in the history of America for, you know, that week or whatever, you know, that that's six months or however long this went on and everybody was crying, foul. Well, now, you know, the, the, the problem has magnified. It's amplified several fold over and suddenly people are pretty quiet about it. Joe Biden's sometime ago, back in March of this year said, Hey, you know, this is looking like a problem, because we were seeing major spikes in the numbers. And we've talked about this here. And I have a lot of empathy for the people who want to come here and be a part of America, you know, to pick your family up and Trek, you know, thousands of miles across the desert. That's a big thing. That's a big deal. And I have a lot of empathy for those people. And my position on this has always been that I think it's reprehensible that our government creates policies that creates incentives for people to do that, to subject themselves, dragging their family across the desert, who knows how many people actually make it here, whether we have any accurate death numbers or, you know, rape or sexual assault numbers, or, you know, kidnappings or abductions during the journey, any idea what those numbers are, nobody has any idea. And they all come to the border. You know, people are dropping dead. They're being abused by other people. It's a humanitarian crisis. No doubt about it. And why is it exacerbating? Why is this sort of something that is escalating? Well, it happened because we saw a change in administration policy. And so Joe Biden back in March now starts striking eyes. This is going to be a big problem. We start seeing the numbers spike in March. And we know historically speaking, because we can look at the numbers from prior summers that the March is just the start of it. Things get really bad. April, may, June, and leading into July because it starts to sort of cool off and people, you know, as, as summer comes down upon us, people start the journey back in April and may when it starts to warm up down here in Arizona. So it's, it's something that has been going on for a long time. Joe Biden says Camila, you're the only person who can help us solve this problem. I trust you. I know that you're competent, competent, and capable of solving this. You handle this because I don't want to do it. Lord knows nobody else can fix it. So he gives us pile of debris right over to Camila and people for a long time have been asking themselves, is she going to go to the border? Is she going to go and actually solve this thing? Because no party in America has been able to do it. No has been able to do it. We've had Republicans try Democrats try. And it's just a big mess. So we've all been scratching our heads saying, well, what's comma going to do about this. Maybe she'll finally go down. There has not gone down to the border. Doesn't want to go down and see what's actually happening in Texas or Arizona or New Mexico or California, where the actual crisis is where people are at, where the, where the interfaces between the two countries, right? It's called a border on one side, we have America on the other side, we have Mexico. So you would think that where we have this interface where one country merges with another country and people are coming across that border, that you would go and address that you would go and say, Hey, what's going on here? Hey, Texas border patrol, what do you guys need for me? I'm the vice president. I've been put in charge of this thing. I'm going to come solve this issue. What do you need? Go down to El Paso and different places here. We've got all sorts of places in Arizona where she can come down and just give an assessment of the situation and just show border patrol and law enforcement, the people who have their entire careers dedicated to protecting the border. That there's a little bit of enthusiasm that she is here. And she's, she's dedicating the resources of the federal government to support these people as they do their job. But she doesn't do that. Doesn't want to go to the border. She goes right over the border lands in Guatemala. And if you look at a map, by the way, I didn't pull one on the slides. But if you do, you're going to notice that Guatemala is pretty far away from that border because Mexico is a big giant country. And there's a lot of land in between Guatemala and the United States. And so I, okay. So she just skips over kind of a big chunk of area where maybe a lot of people have to go through in order to get across the border. She just kind of skips that goes right to Guatemala and says, Oh, we're going to start addressing the issues that you have here. And how condescending is this, by the way, if you're a Guatemalan and Kamala Harris, you have somebody who comes in and says, Hey, we have a problem in America. Our borders are, or we have immigration problems. We don't really know what we're doing there. We're going to solve this. You have Camila, who's going to fly into your country Guatemala and say, you people are the problem. This we're, I'm going to come here. You guys have corruption and drugs and all this stuff. And I'm going to show you how, what we expect from you to solve our problem. I'm going to come in and we're going to start just, you know, cleaning house. And, uh, you're welcome Guatemala for Kamala Harris coming in and telling you how to get your house in order to solve our problem. Right? If you're Guatemala, what are you saying to yourselves going what? There's an entire country. That's way bigger than us directly. North of us. Has anybody spoken to them about this? They have control theoretically of the entire border, that interfaces with the United States. Why are you hearing Guatemala? Talking to us about this, go up to the country up there and tell and talk to them. They control the border, not us. So I am not a Guatemalan, but I imagine that if I were, I would not be very appreciative of queen Kamala coming in and telling us how to run our business. And by the way, they weren't happy. So from the New York post, what we see here is the Guatemala president blames Biden for the border crisis. As protestors tell Kamala Trump won. All right. Now they said that, okay. I didn't say that YouTube. That's the Guatemalans. You know, they're not happy about whatever they that's their that's their language, not mine, but the Guatemala and say Trump won vice vice-president. Kamala Harris was greeted on Monday by protestors in Guatemala, telling her Trump won and go home. And I've got pictures of this here in a minute. As the country's president blamed Biden for this year's migrant crisis, the rally was visible to Harris's motorcade. And she arrived to meet with Guatemala, president Alejandro Giamatti one day after he blamed the U S for his, for lowering his constituents North. Right? And it, I don't, I don't blame the guy, right? The president is saying, Hey, you S stop telling people that they can come to your country because they're going to come to your country. He said, you're taking my constituents. He says, I need them, their voters. And then there's another sign. There's a large sign that was near the central American countries, presidential palace here. And it says, Camila Trump won. Uh, the Guatemalan said that YouTube, the Guatemalans canceled them. Not me. Come out, cobble up mind your own business. They said in a, in another site, another site is that according to a pool report. Well, there's a picture. I got a picture images posted to Twitter, show other signs, including one that tells Biden. It's a migrations are Camila, go home. Another large sign set up by activist features a doctorate photo of a pregnant Harris. Oh my gosh, they are getting intense. The poster read Guatemala is pro life. And it says, mama LA helped me. These Guatemalans are amazing. They say, mama LA helped me. Right? It's an anti-abortion sign. Guatemala was pro-life mama. Lola helped me. Harris does not have biological children. Another sign that appears to have been hoisted by activists onto a tall building along the road says Camila stopped funding, criminals. Fuera de Guata Malo. Just get out of Guatemala. It's unclear how many participants were involved in the protest. Giamatti said that CBS news interviewed that aired on Sunday. So the Biden administration is to blame for sparking the migration crisis. The Guatemalan president said he and Harris quote are on the same side of the coin on migration says, uh, he, he said, quote, we asked the United States government to send more of a clear message to prevent more people from leaving. When Biden took office, the message changed too. We're going to reunite families. We're going to reunite children. He said the very next day, the coyotes were here, organizing groups of children to take them to the United States. You're kidding me. You don't say that when the government comes out and says that policies are going to change, then would you be surprised that it actually creates incentives? Because people listen to what the government says, and then they do it. How about that? Shocking. Now a day after the meetings, after a day of meetings, Harris is going to depart Guatemala Monday evening. So she's already gone. And she left yesterday, travel to Mexico. She's going to hold meetings on Tuesday today with the president, Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador. Now former president Donald Trump made curbing illegal immigration and stopping asylum seeking caravans from central America, major themes of his four year term. One point he cut off foreign aid for regional governments. Critics attribute the record surge to Biden's policies, including his decision to end Trump's quote, remain in Mexico policy that required most asylum seekers from central America to remain in Mexico while the U S court reviewed their claims. So when people came to the border, Trump said, Nope, yeah, asylum, no problem. We're going to process your claim, but you got to wait on that side of the border. Guess what happens there? Nobody wants to do that. That is a disincentive for them coming to the border. And now you might say, well, well, those are, those are people that, you know, we need in America and they are claiming asylum. And that's a legal process. And you know, well, what are we going to do about that? So what do you do? You change the policy. We don't want them to stay in Mexico anymore. We want to encourage them to come and claim asylum. So when they do get here to the border, we say, come on into the United States. What does that do? It causes a massive surge. We got kids, we've got families. We've got men, a lot of men, young men, some with women, some with children, we have this whole situation where we don't know if the kids even belong to the people who are bringing them across the whole. Thing's a disaster because of this come across the border and wait here. Guess what ends up happening? We can't process people fast enough. And we give them IOUs, come back to court in a couple of weeks. They don't ever come back. And we have an immigration problem that people are upset about rightfully so. Biden also ended the construction of the border wall, urge Congress to pass legislation that would establish a pass the citizenship for most illegal immigrants. Republicans said the legislation and Biden policy changes created new poll factors, countering Harris's emphasis on the root causes. And we're going to see a little bit more about what the root causes are there. The number of U S Mexico border, the tension surge to a new 21 year monthly high, more than 178,000 people in April the most recent month month for which statistics are available. Many of the families and unaccompanied children are from the three countries, Northern triangle of central America, Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador. So when I was thinking through this story, uh, you know, I wanted to really see what they were saying about this in Guatemala. You know, what are the news people say there? And I went there and I found a leading newspaper. They say, Guatemala's leading newspaper here is called princess Libris. And if you go to this website, you're going to see that they have an article here right on the front page, says, come out. And I translated this, right? The whole thing is in Spanish, of course, but my Spanish is a little bit rusty. So Kamala Harris is in Guatemala, the Chronicle in images of the visit of the vice-president. So they met and they talk about the security presence. This was written by Rebecca Javier yesterday, Pensa Prince Liberi, which is why Tamala is leading newspapers. So we've got some good pictures from this article that we didn't have in the New York post. And they say, Guatemala is the first country. The president has visited. Vice-president Harris has visited since she took office. They met with the president different representatives of what they call civil society, or however, that translates. They had snipers, armored vehicles, wide security present. And so we see a picture here, someone saying, you know, no more corruption with the punitive, with impunity here, uh, different people were present in front of the United States on the occasion here, we have a different sign. So now we can see sort of what these protests that they were talking about in, in the New York post, where we're mentioning. So we've got a bunch of signs here and we see this big one says, co they're lying to you. There is corruption. And there are lying politicians. There's poor nutrition. There's hate crimes, women killing, you know, exploitation of kids, unemployment, poverty, Guatemala is a narco state. They say for that reason, there is immigration. So that's why there's immigration. Okay. So he's saying they're lying to you about when, you know, whatever the root causes are, you know, and Kamala Harris, listen, look at this list, right? They can look at this list. It says there's corruption. You know, politics. I think, I think that's lying. Politicians, nutrition, problems, exploitation of kids, women, crime hate crimes and all that stuff. Kamala Harris has been talking about. If I recall things like global warming, right? That wasn't on the list. Climate change is that on there, didn't see that anywhere, but that was taking place in front, right in front of the U S embassy. Here are some other signs. The other funny ones that the New York post was mentioning. You see here, a group of ex military personnel demonstrated against the visit of Harris protesters assured that the vice president came with a hidden agenda with which she would ask for reforms to the political constitution of the Republic. The group also spoke out for the lack of approval of bill five, six, six, four. Okay. So this is, this is the Guatemala and media, right? This is what they are talking about. This is not what America is talking about. That was why I wanted to take a look here. Okay. And say, well, what are their concerns? A hidden agenda. You know, what could that be? She really there for climate change or is there something else? So we see a couple signs here. This one says, Kahmilah mind your own business, right? So they're walking down the street. We have another one. This one here says Trump one back there, again, their words cancel this guy. Don't cancel me. He canceled this guy right here. All right, here, we have a Guatemala prefers Trump. That's another sign. So, you know, a decent group of people I know, not too many, but I say respectable going out there, making their voices heard out in Guatemala, protesting Kamala Harris. All right. And so we have another image here. Here is the two of them up on the stage. This is the national palace of culture. So we've got Kamala Harris over here, Guatemala president over here, Giamatti, and here they are speaking. So we've got both of them on stage. Now in Guatemala, they say they delivered a joint statement, highlighting the achievements of the bilateral meeting. Harris informed that his country will create a regional task force with an emphasis on Northern central America to quote, stop smuggling of migrants and human trafficking. So, okay. So that's what they're reporting Harris had said. Then we have, we go back over to, uh, you know, an American clip. Now this clip is spreading around Twitter, like wildfire. This is CommonWell Harris. She's speaking here at the national palace in Guatemala. And she is telling them this is from a clip that Reuters put together. And so we're going to probably cut, cut, clip out of it here in about a minute or so. But here is Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris telling the Guatemala and people don't come to the border. What here she is.

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And I believe if you come to our border, you will be turned back. U S vice president Kamala Harris in Guatemala on Monday, said she had robust talks with Guatemalan president Alejandro Giamatti on the need to fight corruption and deter undocumented immigration to the United States from the central American nation, where she had one resounding message for those considering making the dangerous journey, do not come, do not come. What the vice president in her first foreign trip said, improving living conditions for Guatemalans at home, fighting corruption, narco trafficking, and smuggling, and encouraging private investment in Guatemala were key to stemming the flow of migrants to the U S border. The president. And I discussed a fundamental belief that most people don't want to leave home. They don't want to leave the place where they grew up, where the language they know is spoken, where their culture that they know is present and has been in this case for centuries.

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Yeah. So why do they come then? You know, why do they come? It's because they've got some pretty dang strong incentives, really good ones like citizenship in the United States, like the borders are open and you'll notice that her language, there was a little bit different than stuff we had heard from her previously. This was something that she posted back in 2017 where she says, say it loud, say it clear everyone is welcome here. Like that alliteration it's pretty good. It says, hashtag no ban, no wall, right? So this is obviously your, her posting in 2017, four years ago. So some time ago, but you know, this is just, I think, indicative of the same messaging that we heard all throughout the election, all throughout the campaign, when she was running against Donald Trump, all of Donald Trump's policies on the border were racist and xenophobic and rooted in white supremacy and something that was inhumane and causing a crisis by keeping kids in cages. And the litany goes on and on and on. So now suddenly it sounds like the tune is changing because back during the campaign, in order to reboot Donald Trump, she had to oppose every one of those policies, like, you know, maybe incentivizing or disincentivizing people from coming into the, the border. Well, now she's sounds kind of like Trump, right? Don't come to the border, don't come the media going to say about it. So that was her speech. Now she met with some other people, their vice vice-president announced the donation of$40 million to empower indigenous girls. So I guess that's going to, um, you know, STEM migration, I guess$40 million to indigenous girls. We have a, that's going to improve educational and economic opportunities for women, right? Another 48 million is going to be made available, available for agribusiness. Okay. Again, I don't know where this money goes. I guess that probably most people don't know where this money goes. I'm not against helping people. I love empowering people. Okay. Indigenous girls, right. Empower them to empower everybody. I love, love empowerment. I love education, love economic opportunities. Love those things too. Love it. But do we just throw$40 million at a country? What happens with that? Where does that go? Does that go to the government? Is that, you know, what's, what's going on here. And the question is, do we get a return on, on that investment? Kamala Harris is down there for a problem that she got elected to solve. It's called immigration, right? Whether she was injured, tending to solve this problem or not, that's part of the deal. Joe Biden said, commonly your archive. You go solve that problem. So that's what happened. So she's got to deal with this and now she's got solved the problem. So we got 40 million going to the girls. We got 48 million to agribusiness. Is there any return on investment from her time and that money for America or to speak in that way? But I mean, can't, we can't, we also be humanitarian and also do well for, for the country. Get some ROI out of that money. I don't see what the problem is with that. I can't, I think you can do well financially and use your resources intelligently while doing good. They don't have to be opposed to with one another. Why don't we say, okay, agribusiness does the U S we're going to be 48 million for agribusiness. All right. Is the U S going to be engaging in some, are we going to receive anything from that? Or are we going to say, we're going to give you 48 million and we expect you to use that and invest that to build these factories, to process your agriculture. And we're going to buy that on the open market at a, a redo a 20% reduction until 10 years until we recouped that$48 million back. And we think that's a fair deal and a good investment. It helps your economy gives you a bunch of good jobs, us get some cheap grain or whatever they're growing down there. And it's a, it's a nice little symbiotic relationship. How about that? Or do we just throw$40 million at something? And there's no accountability for where that goes or what happens with that? Does it solve the immigration crisis in any way, shape or form? I don't know. I'm, I'm asking. I'm just asking. I don't know. We have some other stories here from, uh, we have Juan Gonzalez. So he's the director down there from the U S United States security council gave more agreements. He says that they spoke about the issue of migration and the creation of legal routes they have in quotes. Gonzales also spoke about the creation of an anti-corruption force, which will allow investigating and prosecuting corruption cases that have a link to the United States, Guatemala in the region in general, VP of the president. This is the last image that they had in their articles. She left. She met with all these people. They're going to talk about migration, corruption, employment. She met with leaders from Guatemala, local entrepreneurs. She said, quote, the United States will continue to raise concerns about the threats to the independence of the judiciary, the press, and civil society in Guatemala and neighboring nations around the world. Harris said, so she continues up to Mexico, which is actually a place that is on the United States border. So we'll see what comes out of that. If anything, now this trip has largely been seen as a flop. Rightfully so, because she said, don't come. Nobody was expecting that if you are a liberal or a Democrat, you're saying, what don't, what are you talking about? We just heard you say for the last part of the election and for the months, weeks and years leading up to that, that we want to use humanitarian and sympathetic, and we're going to help all these people. And Trump's a racist. And we're the opposite of that. So now you're saying, don't come well, she's trying to do some cleanup and not make it worse. Unfortunately, she failed at that because she might be the worst politician who is elected today. She is, she went over on to Lester Holt's show. And here's a quick quote from the show before we play the clip. Here's what was said, Nathan brand over on Twitter, posted this and said what Camila Harris is not serious about addressing the border crisis that their policies created. He gives us a little bit of a transcript here from the Lester Holt show over on NBC. So Harris says, you know, we've been to the border. Holt says you haven't been to the border. Harris says, well, and I haven't been to Europe. I don't understand the point there Leicester. She kind of cackles and does that little Camila, you know, thing that she does, let's watch this quickly. Okay.

Speaker 3:

Do you have any plans to visit the border? At some point we are going to the border. We've been to the border. So this whole, this

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Whole, this whole thing about the border, we've been to the border. We've been to the border, to the border and I haven't been to Europe. And I know I don't understand the point that you're making. Okay.

Speaker 1:

Yikes. Yikes. That's really bad. That's just rough. You can see when her brain just sort of, when it just short-circuits there guys, um, we've been to the border. We've been to the border. We've been to the border. He says, but ah, yeah, but Camila, you haven't been to the border though. Have you? And she goes, uh, you would imagine folks, if you're the vice-president of this country, you've got a little bit more preparation for this. You know, that the Republicans, the GOP, whether you think this is a fair criticism or not, and I don't, you know, I, I, I don't really, I understand the need as a leader to go down to the border and make your presence known and say, I'm here, we're going to do this stuff. Right. But I also recognize that the United States doesn't need the vice-president or the president to show up physically everywhere. Right. In order to run the country, I think it's a fun sort of jab for the Republicans to keep needling her about this. Hey, why don't you go to the border? And now she's kind of at this point where she, she like, kind of, can't go to the border now, because if she goes to the border, then she's going to be sort of, uh, acquiescing to the Republican's demands and that's going to look weak. But then the media is kind of calling her out here. Hey, you kind of skipped over the border. You went to Guatemala, you're going to go down there at all. I mean, she's going to Mexico. Is she going to go visit the border from the Mexican side or not? You know, what's going on? So, you know, she, she really, can't kind of when, at this point in time, because she's backed herself into a corner because they have dumb policies that don't work, that their policies are the problem. If they just flipped their policies and set up you're right, this is causing a humanitarian crisis. We got to start, reimplementing some more strict stringent border controls. Maybe we'll actually STEM the flow of, uh, of migrants who want to come into this country. And that will solve more of humanitarian problem. I mean, they're trying to be humanitarians while creating a humanitarian crisis. And like, they don't even see it. It's about a political win. It's not about actually helping people. If they wanted to actually help people. There are many ways to do this. Both parties could do that, but I think they're both very interested in making sure that there isn't any actual progress on this issue. Both parties benefit from a poorest border, unfortunately now. And unfortunately for the people as well, it's just a sad thing that we're doing. And this is all of our own making. I say this all the time, you know, Corona virus, COVID all of that was sort of, Whoa, what is this thing? It's beyond our comprehension and control, but this is our border. We can just pass some legislation, send some more bodies down there, fund some more people, right. Solve the issue. Same thing with the criminal justice stuff. These Steve feel like self-inflicted issues that are then doubled down upon because of politics it's, especially in this case. All right. So now we have the bad Lester Holt interview. Oh, I've been to the border now. You haven't well lamb in Europe, either. They're Leicester. Okay. So what the hell is your point? Right? Are you going to go to the next question? Are you going to go to Europe? Okay. So then the white house press room. Now we've got Jen Saki here trying to clean that up. The

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Vice-president was simply conveying is that there's more work to be done, uh, that we don't have these systems in place yet. It's still a dangerous journey, as we've said, many times, uh, from here and from many forums before. And, uh, we need more time to get the work done to, to ensure that asylum processing is where it should be.

Speaker 1:

What the, all right. So not much there. Now, some people who are leaders in the democratic party who kind of are running the show now are upset about this. Let's take a look over here. We have, uh, AOC of course, Alexandria, Ocasio, Cortez. She posted this earlier at about 23 hours ago. It says, this is disappointing to see you responding to Camila says first seeking asylum at any border is 100% legal of a rival. Right? And okay, so that's, that's Trump said, wait across the border. They said, wait over here in the border. And we see what the repercussions are. So second she says the U S spent decades contributing to a regime change and destabilization in Latin America. We can't help set someone's house on fire and then blame them for fleeing. All right. So you see where that's going. So the United States caused all the havoc that's that's existing, I guess, maybe everywhere in the world, or maybe just in Guatemala. I don't know, but she finishes this up. She says it would be helpful if the U S would finally acknowledge its contributions to destabilization and regime change in the region doing so can help us change the us foreign policy, trade policy, climate policy, carceral, policy, border policy, mass, displacement migration, all these other policies. So she's not happy about it now, you know, my question is going, is, is she going to go back down to the border with her white outfit and then hang from the chain link, fences crying like a spectacle. She going to do that again? Don't know. We'll see we have, uh, questions. Now. We've got some questions that are coming in hot from watching the watchers.locals.com, which is our community where we do other things other than just sort of, you know, put content out. We, we post other, uh, things to do like joining a monthly meetup at law enforcement interaction training. And we ask questions from there. So our first one coming over is Jeremy Trita says, I wonder if this trip has set a precedent for all future trips for this administration says, people will publicly say what they believe when they are not part of the system that silences people, no matter what country you live in, everyone has a fundamental right to freedom of speech when it pertains to countries other than your own. Yeah. Yeah. It's uh, you know, Jeremy, it's a good point. I think, I think that freedom of speech is sort of a human it's a human, right. I think it's a fun time mental guarantee that is deeper than just paper. Right? I think it's sort of inherent to your existence sure. To express yourself and communicate yourself. I think if you take that away from somebody, you are taking away part of what makes them human. And so I think it's a human right, really. And I think it's one of the most important rights ever. Uh, that's why it's the first amendment, you know, the founders agreed with that. You can't really talk about it. You can't, you can't do, you can't take action on anything else, if you can't talk about it. And so if you burden speech, you burden everything else that comes as a result of speech, which happens to be everything. So it's a very important, right. Very important concept. And I appreciate you sharing that. We've got Joe Snow in the house says she did not get elected, I guess, I guess Joe Snow green agrees with the Guatemalans down there. So thanks Joe. We have Cove queen. Oh, we got the Cove queen in the house says, Oh, four, three says throwing money at the wrong issues, following a pathetic excuse for a plea to remain in Guatemala. This is starting to seem more like a punked reboot every day. Forget where's Hunter where's. Ashton is the real question. I know like our foreign policy is, is kind of comical, except that if it weren't so sad and you know, typically these types of, of trips, there's kind of something that comes out of it, right? Like an agreement or some sort of an action item takeaway. I just read from you what the president of Guatemala said, said, well, we're on different sides of the coin on this issue. So, you know, us throw some money down there. She goes, she makes a big statement that says, don't come. All right. So I guess all of the people who are on their way are just going to go, Oh, did you hear Kamala? Harris said, don't come. Oh, all right, get up, pack up. Kids were going home. Kamala said, right? The question is, are there going to be any policy changes? Because the policies lead to the incentives. It's not her, her, you know, inconsequential bladder that, that, that moves the needle on it. It's the, it's the decisions that they make that trickle down that get implemented. People listen to those things. So they're still gonna come, not going to change anything. Next up, we have anonymous in the house as so is VP Harris, creating jobs in Guatemala by encouraging us companies to move there is this their job creation plan. And does it then exploit the poor by giving them slave labor wages? Does anyone finding anyone else finding this outrageous? Yeah, I actually do write, I find it condescending to them that they need the United States to come in and fix their problems. I find it condescending that they might say, if that is what they're, what they're talking about, you know, do you not like we're going to send a bunch of jobs that Americans don't want over there, and we're going to sort of mandate as part of our government that we're going to slop all of this onto you. Right? Look, if there's private investment and there's private agreements that are happening there, that's a different story, but that's not what Kamala Harris is there doing. She's in a, she's an ambassador of the government, right? She's the vice president. Somebody who has been delegated the responsibility of solving this issue. So going around and throwing a hundred million dollars at a problem, doesn't do anything as far as I can tell, is it going to solve, is it going to stop anything? Did the Guatemalan president say, Hey, thanks for your$88 million of investment. We're going to send our national GORT guard to our border. And we're going to start doing something about this. Did that happen? It's Guatemala going to do anything here or are we just going to sort of rely on common laws, words don't come and expect that to be meaningful. Great questions. All of those came over from watching the watchers.locals.com. And before we jump into the next segment, quick reminder, we've got some very great links to other down below, got a crypto channel, have a channel where I do recorded videos at a very long, deep dive on COVID. You should check out. Then we have our law firm channel where we talk about Arizona cases, Arizona law, and some other information about dealing with law enforcement and police. So if any of those sound appetizing to you, please feel free to follow the links below. And of course, if you need any legal services in the state of Arizona that are related to a crime, definitely contact us. We offer free case evaluations and we'd love the opportunity to help. So, all right, thank you for all of those great questions. We are going to change gears. We have a, you know, a story, Ugh, the worst we have Cicoria Turner. We may not remember her. We didn't spend much time talking about this case on our channel. We did talk about a lot of the other cases that were percolating around this time. Ray shard, Brooks, of course we can't forget George Floyd. There were many others that we spent a lot of time dissecting here on this channel. And you remember this in the summer unrest of 2020, everybody was on lockdowns, but we saw a lot of social unrest existing throughout our cities and many people that politicians and the elected bureaucrats in charge, they said, well, you got to stay at home. If you're suffering from COVID or, or under COVID restrictions, whether you got COVID or not, doesn't matter, you're locked up. You can't go to your church, can't go to your families. You've got to stay indoors unless you're protesting for criminal justice. Remember that there were all of these protests taking place around the country. People were burning Wendy's downs, lighting used car, lots on fires, all in the name of racial justice. And of course the bureaucrats were okay with that. We actually saw articles from doctors and scientists that say, well, you know, we have to think about science holistically. And we know that there's racism in science. And so we're speaking, whatever, right? The whole thing was a, was a joke and an, a stretch at best, but that went on for a long time. And so it's easy to miss a story like this with Cicoria Turner, an eight year old girl who was shot and killed in Atlanta, right in the middle of all of this unrest, we're going to go through this story. We're going to go and rewind the clock back a little bit to 2020 and do some background here. We're going to learn about the person who ended up shooting her. And we're going to now learn about what the family is doing. They are suing the city of Atlanta, the Atlanta mayor, as well as a lot of other people in, in Georgia, in the Atlanta government for damages, because they're saying that the government had a responsibility to deal with the protestors, to deal with the unrest, to stop the potential for violence and their failure to do that was negligent. And it ultimately led to the, the shooting, the killing the death of eight year old Cicoria Turner Turner. And we have to put this in context, right? We've seen other lawsuits and other settlements for loss of life resulting from law enforcement interaction and from loss and harm to society. So let's frame this out and see where this story goes. The New York times is going to give us some background here. This is posted back on July 15th, 2020. So we're, we're winding the clock back about 11 months posted by Jenny gross. And it says a teenage suspect is charged in a fatal shooting of an eight year old girl in Atlanta. Her name was Cicoria Turner. Eight year old girl died this month in Atlanta, after an armed group stopped her family's car and opened fire. Awful, awful story teenagers. 19 year old, Julian Conley charged with two counts of aggravated assault. One count of felony murder. According to his lawyer, Jackie Patterson, Atlanta police department issued a warrant for his arrest on Tuesday. And again, this is last year. So this is we're we're progressed beyond this. Mr. Conley turned himself in on Wednesday. The police said, uh, Mr. Patterson said his client had witnessed the shooting and had seen three to four people. Okay. I've been fire, but then Mr. Conley had not shot at the cart. Okay. So it sounds like almost like a drive by situation, car full of, you know, 1923 or four people in there. Conley's in the car. They drive past Sophia or Cicoria Turner's car and open fire. So they identify Conlin. Julian, the people in the vehicle, they arrest him, they pull him out. He says that he wasn't the person actually doing the firing from within the vehicle, but that there were other people doing the shooting. So now that we have that framed out now Patterson, the defense lawyer says my client has no idea who these people were. He does not know any of these people by name have any affiliation with them. The police don't have anyone else they can charge. So they decided to charge my client, right? So it's a pretty, pretty good defense, right? To it to say, look, hypothetically, there were four people in the car. They only identified one person. So of course he's going to get blamed for it. So there's no interest in Connolly to talk about this. Now, the shooting, which took place near the Wendy's fast food restaurant, right? Where Ray shard Brooks was killed in June has roiled Atlanta. Brooke's 27 year old black man shot during a confrontation outside of the Wendy's. And we spent some time talking about this. This was the wine where Ray shard Brooks was asleep in the drive-through line at Wendy's falls asleep. This actually happens quite regularly. Believe it or not. Uh, people do this, you know, people fall asleep and, uh, the police came to try to arrest him, conducting a DUI investigation, take it from there. They do the investigation. He's completely compliant. Totally. You know, agreeable throughout the entirety of the interaction until they go to arrest him, he gets into a struggle with them. There was a moment in time where I, I thought that, uh, lethal force force self-defense was absolutely justified until Ray shard Brooks started to run away. He's about 20 feet away. Then one of the officers opens fire, shoots him in the back twice, kills him right as the guys running away. Now there, their explanation here is that Ray shard Brooks took one of their tasers, which if I recall correctly had already been expended once or twice. So it was a dead taser. As he's running away, he kind of leans back and sort of opens it up. And you know, apparently aims that taser back at the police, deemed that to be a threat by lethal force, a threat of lethal force. And so they opened their fire and they execute him. So a lawyer now forced to court, his family, who of course, was not a part of that, but was sort of caught up in the aftermath. The family, their lawyer says is named Davis said to Korea, her mother and her mother's friend were on their way home from setting off fireworks for the 4th of July. When a group of armed individuals opened fire on the vehicle, gunshots struck the vehicle multiple times, hitting Cicoria. The police said family friend, who was driving, went to the Atlanta medical center for help. So Corey received treatment at the hospital, but did not survive her injuries. Okay. This is a picture of her right there, right? Probably you first day of school, something like that, just absolutely terrible. Mr. Davis said to Corey, his family did not want the wrong person put behind bars, but added that the family was dismayed that the suspect Mr. Conley said he witnessed a shooting, but then refuse to talk to the police about it. Now for the family, Mr. Davis says, that's deeply disturbing. They would like any witness, including the client to share information. But Conley's lawyer said everyone accused of a crime has a right to remain silent. He's absolutely right. And that's the right move. Funeral force to Korea was held in Atlanta on Wednesday. Davis said, so Korea's family, her mother, father, two brothers, younger sister. They hope community members would come forward with information. So the people responsible for the killing could be held accountable. It's been so emotionally draining for the family. They've described still being in the days. Like it's just a really, really bad dream. They can't wake up from, so this is Charmaine Turner, the mother at her daughter's funeral service, 10 and 12 year old sons, along with the father all standing there. Right. It's just awful. It's just terrible. Uh, yeah man. All right. So let's take a look at the guy who is responsible for this. So the judge denied bond for a third time. This is the person, his name's Julian Conley, charged with killing eight year old denied bond during a hearing. And again, this was back this year though, February 26th. So we're sort of catching up in time. According to police Turner was riding in a Jeep with her mother and an adult friend. They turned downtown on the university Avenue Avenue. Protestors had recently erected illegal barricades, according to authorities in circling a nearby Wendy's. That became a gathering point after Ray shard Brooke's death at the hands of the Atlanta police officer. So remember this, right? Remember we talked about this. We saw throughout the country, really? We saw, you know, Chaz and chop, the Capitol Hill, autonomous zone cha yeah. Chaz Capitol Hill autonomous own. I think that was in, uh, Seattle or in Washington. I can't recall where that was, but we saw that there, I think Portland had their own autonomous zone and we had all of these like actual insurrections where we have groups of people where they would say, Oh no, this is, this is our territory. Now like, this is our land. We'd say no, no like this is still the United States. This is Seattle. There's a grocery store right there. What are you talking about? They'd say, no, it's actually ours. Like we're going to, and we were going to start collecting money from people. There was that one guy in Chaz I think was going around and like taking protection money from different store vendors. Remember all of that. So the same thing started happening here. We, we see this from the article back in February 26, they're noticing, or they're reporting that back in July, the summer of unrest, that there were protesters, illegal barricades. There's just setting up shop. After the shooting. Turner's family drove straight to the hospital, Conley who was then 19. He was at the scene, said he witnessed the shooting and even had a gun, but he emphasized, he didn't fire it though. He said, nobody wanted that to happen. It was a tragedy that did happen. He said in court, this was the third time a judge considered a bond, but denied it. The family continues to plead for witnesses to come forward where police say numerous people fired shots in the car. Only Conley has been charged. Turner's family plans to Sue the city. They're seeking$4 million for property damages and that an injury sustained by Turner's mother and the mother's boyfriend. So they want 4 million bucks for failing to remove the arm protestors who had taken over the intersection. Right? So you've got these people actually barricading the intersection with guns and like shooting people who are coming towards that intersection. Sophia Turner's family comes to it. They opened fire. She shot and killed to go to the hospital. So now they're suing and they're saying, Hey, why did you let that happen? Here is Julian Conlin. This is the gentleman here, Julian Collie, Fulton County Sheriff's office. We can see what he looks like. And this is the lawsuit. So the Atlanta journal constitution is reporting that they are now suing. The family is suing the city, the mayor, and the police chief in the child's death. Right? And they say, it's that thirst for accountability. That's driven them to file a lawsuit. They filed in state court saying that the government was negligent in their duties by failing to remove the armed vigilantes who had gathered along peaceful protesters at the Wendy's where Ray shard Brooks was shot and killed. Law firm is called the Cochran firm, which is part of the family's legal team. The complaint announced on Monday, yesterday, who are they suing? Mayor Keisha Lance bottoms. We have Atlanta police, chief, Rodney Bryant. We have city council, woman, Joyce Shepherd, and they're suing Wendy's international. Wow. There is no dispute. This little girl was innocent. They say did nothing wrong on their way home. They lost their little ones. Just terrible complaint. Alleges that in allowing that action bottoms, shepherd, the police chief failed to protect the Atlanta residents and that they were directly and proximately led to support his death, which was foreseeable and avoidable. All right. So let's go over to the lawsuit. So you can see here. This was filed yesterday on June 7th, 11:06 AM. Civil division. It's a civil lawsuit state of Fulvia County, which is out in Georgia. We've talked about Fulton County for that election. Didn't we, we have Charlotte Charmaine Turner. We have Corey Williamson, the natural guardians. They are suing city of Atlanta. We have mayor, we've got the former interim police chief. We have city council member, a university venture. We have Wendy's international being sued. Civil lawsuit seeks damages arising from the shooting where Cicoria Turner was shot and killed happened in front of a Wendy's. This complaint asserts that the city of Atlanta was negligent. Right? All these people here are going to be cited in their underwear, Georgia law. It says corporations and their officials municipal court, and their officials can be held liable for negligent performance. All right, let's take a look at some of these factual allegations here. So they say on June 12th, Ray shard, bro was shot and killed. We got that within hours. There were demonstrations that erupted nearby. Some of the protesters were near the area. They were armed and they became violent Wallace, June 13th, which is one day after the shooting. Dennis[inaudible] continued. They spread over to Wendy's site where the shooting took place. Numerous individuals overtook the nearby interstate. The gathering at the Wendy's came to include peaceful law abiding as well as violent demonstrations. As they grew larger, the violence became worse. Wendy's was set on fire cars were set on fire right outside the Wendy's buildings were vandalized. And we talked about this. I think we had pictures of it. Right. And there were, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. We talked about it was a Wendy's. There was an Arby's too fast food joints. Very, very anti justice apparently. So they got to grow on June 17th, Fulton County district attorney announced the filing of charges against the officers, which we talked about following this announcement, APD APD began approach test of its own. Okay. That means the cops. So the prosecutors then decided they were going to charge the officers. And then the police, uh, they got what was called the blue flu. Oh no. What is the blue flu? Well, it's police officers call in sick and not show up to work because of their disappointment or the content that exists. So they call it out sick right on Saturday, June 17th on Saturday, June 20th, a total of 171 APD police officers called out sick. Don't you hate when I and happens? Well, you know, flues are contagious. And especially back in June, man, this could have been crazy IRA. So high alert, glad they stayed home, right? Don't want them to be out there spreading the virus anywhere. Mayor bottoms and Brian informed the public that no nine one, one calls would go on answered a very different message was being disseminated to officers by others, within APDs command. Following the news of the charges. Major Kelly Collier sent a member, a memo to the officers, telling them to refrain from proactive policing. Okay. This is where this is a little bit different than some of other other cases. And, uh, um, I'm liking where this is going. Actually, I thought about this previously on this channel, you know, law enforcement doesn't have an affirmative duty to come and respond to your emergency. Many people think that they do like they call the cops and they've got an obligation to come help you. Well, there was a Supreme court case. I forget what it was. I said, that's not true. What happened was there was a lawsuit where the police got a phone call, you know, nine one, one, Hey, somebody is dying or going to kill me or whatever the police got there. Or maybe even didn't show up. I can't remember the case. This was years ago when I read it. But the police didn't show up and launch the, the, a person who died or whatever was injured, ended up suing and saying, Hey, you sh I called you. I pay taxes. I have a, an ABI. You owe me duty. I am, I am. You are required to help me when I call Supreme courts. No, we're not right. No affirmative duty to go and help you. So in this case, is there an affirmative duty to clean up the streets to, to move these people aside and to provide security here? Well, maybe, or maybe not. This is a little bit different, right? Because this is happening in a public intersection versus somebody's home. And this is also a situation where the police department is active, actively telling people. Now, according to paragraph 23 to refrain from proactive policing. Okay? So it's sort of a stand down order. The memo stated as follows, if not effective immediately, we will operate as a police, as police officers. And we'll respond when violence occurs in an officer's presence and we'll respond to victims of violence. We will not be overly proactive in any way, shape, form, or fashion. We are concerned with keeping our officers safe and healthy. Yeah. In the weeks following, you know, ratioed Brooks protests, there was an intersection where they couldn't keep control. June, 1924 year old woman was peacefully protesting. She was shot in the leg. June 20th, 35 year old man was shot in the leg. After a drive by in the same area, witnesses in the area stated that the police, the drive by did not intervene witness to the shooting. Reportedly stated that the police were here. When the guy got shot, they saw the guy got shot. They saw the car that was shooting at us and pursue him. So the cops are sorta just standing down. You're kidding. That's going to happen when people I'll start saying that, that we're gonna start charging cops and defunding the police. And then every single cops are racist. Maniac. You think that the cops are just going to go, Oh, well, that's okay. We're going to keep doing our work. Thanks. No I've said for a long time, right? If you're not, if your work is not appreciated, you're not obligated to stay there. This is America pick up and move. They got the blue flu, right? I don't think that's, that's an admirable thing to do. Okay. If you, if you have signed up to go do your job and you employ, and you're an employee there and your work says, we need you to be here to do your job. You got to do your job, right. I don't think that what the police did. He, there is commendable in any way, but you know, th this is a step that's a separate issue. If the police then say, you know, separate and apart from the blue flu stuff, if the police, this, this came out and then said, we're not going to be officers anymore. Like what's happening in Seattle, in different parts around the country, officers are just up. We're not, we're not gonna, we're not gonna serve anymore. Can't blame him for it. All right. This continues. It says some community members began arming themselves to protect their neighborhood. Other individuals formed an armed militia that blocked the roads. They created a physical barricade. They became violent towards people who tried to pass unarmed community members, pleaded with armed individuals to clear the area and go home. Their pleas were disregarded. Members of the militia became increasingly violent. When people tried to pass armed militia would target them by shooting at them, throwing rocks at them and breaking their windows. Physically assaulting them. The barricade became violent. Public nuisance created a public defect that obstructed the right to pass in the middle of university Avenue. Okay. All of this happened, everybody going way, way back, June 19th, it was already going on. The shooting took place on June 12th. Okay. Going backwards June 12th. Now we go all the way forward to July 4th. All of this madness has been going on for a long time. Now, approximately nine 30 friend of Ms. Turner was driving the Jeep makeshift roadblock at university Avenue manned by numerous armed individuals. They began walking towards Ms. Turner's car, brandishing their guns signaling towards the car that they could not pass the barricade. Miss ivory, Mr. Ivory approached the roadblock one or more of the armed individuals immediately opened fire into the vehicle with eight of those bullets piercing the car. So Corey was shot in her back while sitting in the backseat of her car in America folks in Atlanta, in Atlanta, on university Avenue, after being rushed to Atlanta medical center. So curious to come to her injuries pronounced dead later that evening, eight years old, starting on June 13th, mayor bottoms and the others. They allowed arm and violent individuals to take control of a major intersection. The community leaders ignore their pleas for help ask why they, the barricade was not cleared. Uh, the chief of police said it was a busy night. Yeah, there were, uh, there were logistics problems. Mayor bottoms said that she was unaware or were aware that there were shootings, but that the vigilantes were the ones responsible for it. Mayor bottoms had the police had planned on clearing the area weeks earlier, but were encouraged to wait until after council members shepherd requested more time to negotiate with the activist. Right? Well, how'd that work out there? Shepherd council member shepherd, not too good. Did it? Council member shepherd explained that quote. She still considers herself an activist and sees merit and listening to citizens with grievances, believing that her actions were justified because she wanted it to mediate with everybody. Okay. Well, that's what you get. I guess, in an interview, shepherd admitted that the barricade had become a major concern. However, despite that she was a refused to go to the area, she wanted to continue to negotiate with demonstrators. She wanted us to negotiate. Why didn't she go down there? Mayor bottoms ordered the police to stand down and did not respond to violent attacks. So the whole city just stood down. Uh, mayor bottoms, mayor bottoms, mayor bottoms. Let's see what else. Prior to the shooting defendants, they had noticed and knowledge. So what they're trying to do here is sort of wrap everybody up into this lawsuit saying that the government was totally negligent. But in addition to that, there were other people who were negligent like Wendy's and university venture LLC, saying that there were dangerous conditions around the property. They've got a duty to make sure that people who come to their premises are not injured or not harmed. And because somebody got injured and harmed and they allowed these dangerous conditions and all of this criminal activity to exist right near their property. They're saying that they're sort of, uh, you know, contribute Tori they're, they're somewhat liable monitors, terribly speaking. So, you know, is this lawsuit going to go anywhere? Good question. Uh, I, I would guess probably not. Let's see what they are asking for. The process issue is in accordance with the law, the court, they want the court to grant a jury trial. They want compensatory punitive and consequential damages in an amount to be determined fees and costs signed off on by sheen Williams and my Wally Davis. So, you know, I'm not a civil attorney, so I don't know much about suing the government, that those types of claims, we get a lot of those, but we just kind of send those out to other attorneys who are interested in civil law. I do criminal law and our firm. That's all we do. So, you know, in a case it's like this, I would say, I would imagine that something is, is started like this to work towards a settlement, right? Is this a case that's going to go to trial? Or is this something that is a really bad, ugly case for the government looks terrible. Right? And it's an eight year old girl, very sympathetic plaintiffs. Somebody who everybody looks at and goes, Ugh, horrible. So what does the government do with this? Do they contest it or do they just settle it out? Did they say all right, what do you want? How much money is it going to take to make this go away? The attorneys, you know, take a fee. Family gets some compensation, probably nothing, even remotely close to anything that's going to repay. You know, of course the law they're eight year old girl, but something versus nothing. So hopefully that is productive. Let's take a look@somequestionscomingoverfromwatchingthewatchersdotlocals.com. We've got LT 13 in the house as even mayor bottoms says the officer shot after Brooks fired a taser, a taser, according to the da at the time is deadly force. Yeah. They, they kind of split that both ways. Don't they? Right? It's, it's deadly force if it's being used against an officer, but it's less than deadly force. If they're using it against a defendant, right. LT 13 says Ray shard, Brooks, his white girlfriend, not wife. The Wendy's not that color matters. It's just what everyone is doing. It seems, yeah, you gotta right. It kinda, you kind of have to like, uh, qualify all of your questions with colors. Now we're pronouns. I don't know what the rules are. I don't, I uh, we're. We're going to skip over that. Thank you for your comment. There. LT 13. I don't know about who torched the Wendy's or any of that stuff, but I don't think anybody should be torching Wendy's they make pretty good spicy chicken sandwiches. Last time I had one, it's been a long time, but he used to like those when I was, when I was cleaning pools, we used to drive through Wendy's all the time and get chicken sandwiches hot in Arizona. Right? Oop, gotta stay fuel. Get that little spicy chicken sandwich when it's 120 degrees out cleaning swimming pools. Oh, all right. So glad, glad, uh, those days are behind me. It was good. Good times. Okay. So we're going to change gears and we're going to wrap it up by talking about some bad, bad Popo. New Jersey is closing. It's only women's prison. After rampant abuse by the guards have been reported. So we've got some bad guards. We call them correctional police officers. They're bad Popo folks, bad police officers. We've got like 10 of them. We're going to talk about. And then we've got to talk about a case where four prisoners escape from a federal penitentiary in Texas using body doubles and dummies. What? So we've got some interesting stuff to talk about. The point of this segment is that law enforcement and our city of corrections let's say has a little bit of work to do doesn't it let's take a look at this story from NPR that New Jersey is closing. The only prison governor Phil Murphy said on Monday, announced a press release that the Aetna Monahan correctional facility for women is moving. It's nearly 400 inmates to a new facility or other existing facilities. And it's a lot. And they say the governor said that it's a long history of abusive incidents that predate our administration, not our fault, but we must now commit ourselves to completely breaking this pattern of misconduct to better serve incarcerated women in trusted to the state's care. The move came on the same day that the governor's office released its findings into the reports of Butte brutal cell extractions that occurred inside the prison. On January 1st, this was reported by NJ advanced media. This incident left women prisoners with injuries ranging from scratches to a fractured ice socket. The administration she's report written by a law firm, found that the prison staff used excessive force to remove women from their cells and then filed false reports about what happened. You know, these types of stories are just so infuriating. I know that in criminal law, there's sort of this impact Bueller culture, this idea that, you know, prison supposed to be hard and rough, and you're supposed to get roughed up and, you know, prison rape and the showers and dropping the soap. And all of that stuff is sort of funny in that, you know, if you get mouthy with the guards and they pop you in the job that you should, you kind of deserve that, right? You were somebody who broke the law. And so why should prison be a country club for you? Right? There's that, there's that sort of, it's a popular idea that, that I think is unfortunate really? Because when people are convicted, when they're sentenced to serve time in custody, the sentence typically comes in the version of time. Okay. Not rape, not a busted eye socket, not constant abuse, not, you know, awful regurgitated food like sheriff, Joe Arpaio was doing here, right? Not being thrown out in prison, I'm sorry. Outside in like 30 degree winters or 120 degree summers, that's not part of the sentence. Right? The penalty is you serve time. We remove you from society. The penalty is not. We throw you away and just treat you like a sub piece of debris, not okay. So when we have people who are supposed to be held to high are standards, law enforcement, correctional officers, prison guards, right? Anybody in these positions of power, they have to be held to the highest of standards because we have caged human beings that we have said we are removing from society. That means we are taking them into our custody. As a society. We have an obligation to treat those people well, or at least not compound the penalties that they are facing, that they have not been sentenced to. Let's go back story. The New Jersey attorney General's office, they've charged 10, 10 correction officers with official misconduct and other crimes, the ongoing criminal inquiry in the January incident. So we have Goldsmith. He's a chair for a prison. Justice watch said that she did not oppose the closure. So he suggested simply moving inmates to another place says, you've got to change the culture, not a change of seat. Right. Which is a good point. So we're gonna move them over to the same institution. Essentially. You have the same, the same bureaucracy, just a different location Goldsmith who was incarcerated for 13 years before being released in 17, also called for better training of correctional officers. And I, I, you know, I hear that all the time, like training and I just don't, I just don't, I don't buy it in a lot of cases. We're we're about to go through 10, okay. 10 people. Is that a training problem? Or is this a cultural problem or a personnel problem hiring the wrong people. And 2020 federal investigators concluded that sexual abuse was systemic at Aetna and New Jersey was finalizing a consent degree with justice department that would likely include federal monitors at the prison. New Jersey doc announced earlier this year, it's going to pay$21 million to settle 22 civil lawsuits against the state over allegations of sexual abuse and harassment. Right? So how do you train sexual abuse out of somebody it's like, you should be a baseline requirement. If you're going to be a prison guard or don't abuse, the inmates sexually, what kind of training do you need for that? Apparently a lot more. According to these people now dozens have been suspended after officers are accused of beating. The women, dozens of staff had been suspended and a criminal investigation is underway. This was posted back January of this year. And it looks like we've come to a conclusion here. So let's take a look. We got some backstory here. Dozens have been suspended, criminal inquiries underway. Women's only prison, severely beating several women inmates. Earlier this month, prisoners have told family members, which is often the only people that can ever report any of this stuff. It's really sad because what, who do they report it to the prison guards who are doing the beating and the abuse and they all work together. So then they send people, messages, write letters, they electronically transmit messages. What does a family member do about that? They call a lawyer. Lawyer goes, yeah, that's just, how, what do you want me to do about it? Sue them. Okay. Also in for you, it's going to cost you$20,000 to file a lawsuit. What's I can't afford that. Right? Well, file a complaint with the Bureau of prisons. Nobody cares right now. If you happen to have a lawyer and they're working on the case for you, then you can sort of, you know, uh, address these things. But once somebody has been convicted and they're sentenced to a number of years in prison, what's an attorney going to do other than that, go and file a civil rights lawsuit. If it's a lot of work. My point is the system has a lot of complaints coming through, coming through. And so it sort of just throws them away, everybody in prison complaints, right? So who cares? So these women now have actual legitimate complaints and where's it going to go? Because the guards here are sort of covering up for themselves. It's a big problem. Now they've the family members then communicate it. And one inmate who had as now a broken eye socket and a transgender woman is beaten so badly. She cannot walk. She's now in a wheelchair, right? Family members and advocates have shared letters and other firsthand accounts, 30 officers supervisors, they're all on administrative paid leave for beating somebody and putting them in a wheelchair. Once cha one transgender woman was allegedly handcuffed in herself, thrown to the floor, beaten by a group of officers. According to the woman's mother, three officers stomped on her head based on the messages, the attack left, the woman's knees. So damaged. She's now in a wheelchair. I'm scared. I'm scared of death for her role and said, I don't sleep. I don't eat. I'm on the phone. I'm on the internet. I'm trying to find her some help. She asked that her daughter's name not be used to protect her against retaliation. And what are you going to do mover? You can't take her out say, Hey, we're going to pull her out of your institution and take her somewhere else. No she's in prison. Her account is similar or two descriptions from four other prisoners. Both said at least three women were hurt, including whose eye socket was fractured. Okay. That's, that's a blow, right? It's not like getting, you know, stop squirming while I'm patting you down, you know, get up or what? It's not one of those. It's a fractured eye socket. The attorney general name is grew. Burrier growth. Grew beer grew well, which is just outstanding. Look at this name. Gerber beer grew. Well. It's almost like ruler. Oh my gosh. We're we're. We're just like miss mix-match of all the letters in there. All right. Anyways. So gruel announces charges against two more correctional officers related to the assault. So we're going to, let's take a quick look. We're going to skip most of this because we've got a lot to get to here. We've got our first person charged. We got Lieutenant Eddie Molina. 42 years old charges are official misconduct. And again, this is a publicly released statement from the department of public safety, from the state of New Jersey. They posted this over on their website, and then this is the backstory here. So first person charged official misconduct, two counts, second degree tampering with public records or information. Why would that be failed to prevent and report the use of excessive force assault? So you reported to the doc that the quote for cell extraction, he sent an email that he knew contained false information. January 12th, there was a five persons, uh, suited team of correction officers performed to force a cell extraction for victim. Number two, he was present. He evicted number two was pepper-sprayed was not given an opportunity to comply before the team made entry into the cell in violation of policy members of the team used excessive and unreasonable forest. During the extraction resulting in injury injury, Molina failed to intervene to prevent the use of the unauthorized use of force. Victim two was removed. It was seen in video footage that visible facial injuries she's clearly heard informing those present about our injuries. Lieutenant Molina then later sent an email falsely reported. What occurred did not include that pepper spray was used, did not include that there was no opportunity to comply and did not include that there was unreasonable and unnecessary force. And number three is that they did not report that there was injuries that suffered as a result. Okay? So goes in allegedly, this woman does not want to come out of her. Cell starts using pepper spray, no opportunity to complain. He goes in, gets very rough, visible facial injuries. Then when he, the report, the use of force incident sends an email. Doesn't include any of that in there. So here is a complaint we see from the state of New Jersey and we can see what they put in here. This is the complaint here. You know, we read through most of this knowingly refrain injury for cell extraction. This is all a bunch of legal stuff. So nothing really new that we can glean out of here. But it says January 11th, union to municipal court complaint, summons, Eddie Molina been charged here, signed off on by Susanna Lopez. So they're charging guys. Nothing really stands out on this document. Let's go through, we're gonna fly through this somewhat quickly because there's, uh, nine more of them. But we have Sergeant Andrea Bridges official misconduct, second degree. Let's see what that was. So victim number one, housed failed to report the, this was another four cell extraction, excessive use of force extraction team. But the one has heard crying and pain. She was struck multiple times by the team fractured orbital bone. Sergeant bridges failed to prevent this unauthorized use of force failed to report violation of policy. So that was hers. Same thing here. You can see the official charging document. Again, nothing really stands out. She did commit two or more acts constituting, an unaccepted annexed on authorize exercise and use of her force. All right, second degree charges, five to 10 year sentence charges of course accusation. So that was from the incident. Now we've got some, a new press release again from Gerber beer grew. Well, we have this person who is officer Lewis, Lee Sandro Garcia, multiple. Now it's aggravated assault, official misconduct and tampering with public records. What happened with him? Another five person team during the extraction, let's see Garcia punched and struck victim number two with a closed fixed fist, approximately 28 times in the face area. Don't you like that? 28 times? Hmm. Despite the fact that victim number two had her arms up was attempting to cover her face. Her face to protect herself was standing pressed up against a wall with her back to officers, doc policy permits use of force that is objectively necessary. Garcia's use of force is not including a concussion she had and facial injuries. Then he submitted a false report regarding the incident. He falsely stated that she was throwing punches towards his torso video evidence shows. Now she was facing the wall. She didn't throw any punches at the torso. Hmm. Nice fellow. We have this guy over here. Sergeant Amir Bethia. That was another January 12th incident. So this is a January 12th incident, right? Same, same day 1:13 AM. This is 12:07 AM. So he goes at one 13. Am we have victim number one, she throws an unknown white liquid out of herself. He complied tells her to place her hands up handcuff. He struck her with his fist only allow for a reasonable use of force during his abstraction. She was not resisting special custody report. He stated that she wanted to kill herself. All right. Pepper spray use. So same type of thing. Right? Close fist. Numerous times. Same story. Same story here. January 12th at 1:13 AM. So he's a part of the same incident happening here and later determined an orbital wall fracture. So we've got, uh, Anthony Valvano also a bad Popo. We've got Trenton over here. So we've got, uh, from trend, another release from grubbier grew while today says Sergeant Matthew fashion. He's 33, same type of incident. Early morning, January 12th charges, February 4th, same deal. Right? Struck, struck victim on multiple fists. She was handcuffed and not resisting false claims. False falsely claimed that she was inflicting injuries upon herself. But video doesn't exist. He filed a false report and justified it in permissible, forced cell extraction. We have victim number two, same type of thing happened on another victim for him. We've got this guy who is officer Joe Jose Irizarry. He's 37 years old, two counts for him, aggravated assault. One count of official misconduct. Let's take a look. What happened here? So a different date. Nope. Same date, January 12th, 1:13 AM five person team. So he was a part of that team victim one and victim two. So they were just going around cracking heads, 28 times head and neck area. He punched victim two in the head and neck area at 28 times resulting in a concussion and facial injuries. So between Louis Garcia and Jose Irizarry, these two guys were just beaten the heck out of that woman. Not too good. We have this guy, senior correctional police officer Corey, James, another one, aggravated assault and official misconduct. Same date, right? Same incident, same story. This guy also, this is police officer Gustavo Sarmiento 27 official misconduct, aggravated assault, same deal, January 12th, one 13, aided and abetted and failed to prevent the unauthorized use of force. So these guys are all just kind of standing around, watching it happen. And this is our last one. Number 10 senior correctional officer Tara Wallace, 35 official misconduct and aggravated assault. Same incident Jan 12 1:13 AM failed to stop the beating. So 28 times just there just wailing on this w on this one and nothing happens 10 of them, 10 people, correctional officers all charged with crime. So good news that they are being prosecuted. Of course. See what happens with those women. It sounds like there might be a big, kind of a big cultural problem with the prisons there in New Jersey. So we'll hope that the situation improves in the New Jersey prisons. All right. And then we have our next prison story. So we've got the Bureau of prisons. You know, there was a movie called escape from Alcatraz with Clint. One of my favorite movies. We're going to take a look at something that came from, from that story. But before we do, let's look at what is happening here. Apparently the Bureau of prisons has notified us that four inmates escaped from a federal prison using dummies and body doubles. I'm serious. Yeah. Inmates at a federal prison. They pulled a fast one on them, prison guards by escaping with the help of body doubles, both real and fake. This is posted over online crime.com by Colin comebacker says according to a recent report from the office of the inspector general for people were able to successfully abscond and evade detection from the federal Bureau of prisons, federal correctional complex in Beaumont, Texas for over half a day before staff even realize what had occurred right under their nose. Oh, no kidding. Wonder if I wonder that's how Epstein got out inspector general? Michael Horowitz noted that DOJ OIG, the office of the inspector general had taken stock of multiple investigations involving prison escapes and a letter style reported report addressed to the bop director, Michael Carver job. He's a Trump era hold over. So he was appointed by bill BARR back in 2020. And there is a sort of a question about this, about whether or not a Biden is going to allow of these holdovers to stay in place, right? The Bureau of prisons director, it's a pretty big position and that's a Trump person. So director Carver, Joel, he oversees 122 Bureau of prison facilities, six regional offices, 22, residential blah, blah, blah, white house has so far made no public inclination as to whether they're going to replace him or not. And the report Horowitz focuses on forced labor camp in the salary, Eastern edge of the lone star state forced labor. What, and they are the DOJ notes that for inmates escaped using dummies or by having other inmates, impersonate them while guards went on with their duties entirely unaware for over 12 hours. So, uh, when, so th th the movie that, that I was mentioning escape from Alcatraz, Clint Eastwood, and you don't know the backstory here, but outside of San Francisco Bay, there's an Island called Alcatraz. And they built a prison there for some time. I've actually been to the Island and toward, around it, it was a, it's a, it's a wild thing, but they would ship people over to this Island and they would put them in this maximum security prison because they thought that they could not escape because it's an Island. And if you've ever been to San Francisco, you know, the waters are quite cold. And so if you wanted to escape from the Island, you would need a boat, or you need somebody to come pick you up, or you need a raft or something, but you're not swimming across the shore. You're going to freeze and that's going to be the end of you. So in the movie, escape from Alcatraz, Clint Eastwood plays the, uh, the, the lead person who escaped. I think his name was Frank Frank Morris. And what they did is they made these dummies and the movie is excellent. Really good movie. Nobody talks in it hardly at all. It's so good. You don't have to listen to anything, but it's Clint Eastwood. And he is just sort of walking, can you through how these guys coordinate escaping from the Island escape from Alcatraz. And there's a lot of question about whether they made it or not. And so they actually did escape. I think four people were a part of the plan and three of them, you know, they kind of made it one guy left, stayed behind, but the FBI came out, I think, in the 1970s and said that as far as they can tell they drowned. Right? And so everybody goes, huh? Yeah, not so fast about that. But when I was reading the story, I thought about those, uh, the, the dummies that were made. So Frank Morris and the original crew that escape from Alcatraz, they actually manufactured these dummies and they looked like this. So this is what they were making within the prison cells from inside the prison cells. Now these are not the originals. These are recreation's that the FBI made, I believe is where I got this. Yeah. FBI recreation here. So these were dummies. And of course, you know, in, in, in, in prisons, I guess back then they had these art classes and make clay sculptures and all of this. And so they created these little dummies is with actual hair, right? And they grew, you know, got hair and they clipped hair and put them on these dummies and they put them in their beds. And then when the guards came by to do their counts, counted the dummies, those guys escaped through sort of the walls and an old hatch that they were to able to get through. So let's take a quick look at the actual report itself. This is the management advisory memorandum. It says that the OIG has identified these concerns in connection with multiple investigations involving prison escapes, including an investigation where four inmates went undetected for more than 12 hours, despite three overnight inmate counts. During that period of time, the OIGs investigation at the prison did not substantiate allegations. That correction officers violated policies, because one, the evidence showed that the inmates who escaped may have had other inmates poses them or place dummies in their bed to deceive the officers during the nighttime counts and to the evidence show that the correctional officers likely complied with bop and FCC policy when conducting the counts, right? So they found that problem, but how can you blame the prison guards? They were just following the rules. The policies were being adhered to prison, just kind of work themselves around the policies, the OIG, however, identified security concerns that enable the inmates to escape. We were told at the FCC Beaumont, which is the prison has already begun taking actions to address these concerns. We believe similar steps should be taken by the Bureau of prisons throughout the rest of the country. In this memo, we make three recommendations, which are consistent with what's happening. So they go through this document, they give us the authorities. They talk about the issue. What is the issue here? Well, we've got some security weaknesses that we need to get out. So we have this incident where four inmates were not detected for over 12 hours. Despite three overnight inmate counts evidence showed that they escaped the facility after the 4:00 PM standup count for which they were present. And that despite the correctional officers conducting counts at 12:00 AM, 3:00 AM and 5:00 AM. They were not discovered missing. At those times. They were ultimately discovered missing during the study and account at 10:00 AM. We found that the outdoors, uh, outer doors of separate buildings within or unsecured, and that they were unlocked unmanned, not equipped with surveillance cameras and on. So it's more security recommendations. They've got some conclusions here that they've identified apps that people can smuggle Contra brand in and out, and that they should ensure that there are low alarms on all doors. They should make sure video cameras are on and they should install video cameras on all exterior doors. And so we've got, you know, all of those different recommendations that are are they're they're, you know, they're being made by the office of the inspector general. And we'll see if they, uh, stop any of the other inmate escapes. Let's take some quick questions. Before we wrap up here from watching the watchers.locals.com. We've got sliding edges in the house as we will touch on Brian Williams. And will we touch on Brian Williamson, MSNBC showing Lincoln project propaganda, likening, Antifa to D-Day soldiers. Am I taking crazy pills? So I have not seen that. No, I have not cited. I have not seen that. Brian Williams and MSNBC. I don't, I've not seen it. You know, I should probably follow him on Twitter. Shouldn't I I'll go take a look at it though. We've got Joe snow's in the house as re sentencing cruel and unusual conditions. Yes. King. He says more training. Yes. I don't buy it either. I find it hard to believe that adult humans need trainings to know how to pretend to be human beings. Yeah. I agree with you, Joe. Oh, four hour training on, on not sexually assaulting people or not punching people 28 times in the head, uh, we've got LT. 13 says, is this the new season of orange is the new black? I don't know. Is that what that show's about? I never watched that show. You know, there are some sort of legal criminal shows that I can get into. And some, I just can't sort of watching bull being locked away in custody is a little too much, a little bit, a little too close to home for me. So sliding edge says, I think most guards don't go into service saying I'm going to abuse my inmates. The majority of these dirty posts, Popo come into service and was told it's all right. They perpetuated the abuse and equally as bad, if not worse. Other officers accepted this terrible, terrible behavior. Yeah. It sort of becomes a self fulfilling sort of cycle. Right? You kind of come in re remember the movie training day when well, Washington meets up with Ethan Hawke and Ethan Hawke goes, man, he can't be like this. It can't be like this. And Denzel says, it's like this man, I'm sorry. Welcome. You know, uh, I, I hope that's not the reality and I don't think it is. But when you're talking about, about, you know, sort of that trend, there are this that we talk about it a lot here, the blue code of silence, the blue shield and how these problems can compound due to the silence we've got Sarah smother says, are there any safeguards requiring women guards to handle women, women and police can only perform Pat downs on women. So how are there so many men in a female facility like this? That's a good question, Sarah. And you know, I don't know what, what the answer, I don't know what's going on in New Jersey or why that is such a problem. But yeah, here in Arizona, we've got, we've got some pretty, you know, some pretty deliberate the rules for interactions in, in that regard. But I don't know what's going on out there. It sounds like neither did they sliding edge says I've met some outstanding officers, good and honorable men. So have I and women, and naturally I'm inclined to believe an officer of the law, the physical representation of order for society. It's important to look at things logically, not allow abuse of power to continue and find ways to weed out bad police early, before bad becomes worse. Probably the best thing we can do to support our officers. I hear here on that man, sliding edge Bravo. I agree. You know, and I've said this a lot that I think, you know, good officers want the bad officers gone. And I, you know, I, I wouldn't imagine that that would be a perspective that I would share. Right. I'm a criminal defense lawyer. I don't want bad criminal defense lawyers. I'd be the first one to say, get that person out of here. Okay. I don't, I'm not going to protect that person at all. All right. We've got a couple more. We got an, a Darby says faith, joy says, shout out to that prison for really stepping up the diversity of their corrupt guards. Got to give it to them for that. 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